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Offline Paul S.

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unusual style of Reg. No.
« on: November 04, 2010, 10:30:49 PM »
The 'Blue Book' Nos. stop in 1945  -  and I believe this one is sometime after 1950.   The point of the post, however, was to comment on the unusual format of the number.   We're accustomed to seeing the No. without a 'stop' in the middle, and as I hadn't seen anything in this style before it stood out as unusual.   I don't know who was responsible for making this bowl as I haven't researched the very late Nos.       I assume it is British - and I believe from the early 1950's onwards the same group of Nos. incorporated ceramics, metal and glass.  Am I correct, as for a while I thought this might not have been a British piece.   thanks for looking.

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 10:33:25 PM »
sorry, I had meant to give the No. in my post.    It is........'863.407 RGD.'

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 11:52:08 PM »
Paul, is it really 863? The first character looks like it could be an S, making it S63.407 RGD

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 09:18:21 AM »
It does look like an '8' to me Anne.

Assuming 63407, then this is not listed on Great-Glass:

63267    F & C Osler   10-Dec-86
63474    Stevens & Williams   14-Dec-86

Data courtesy www.great-glass.co.uk

I agree that 863407 would be c.1945-on
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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 09:52:09 AM »
Anne/David - thanks for your replies.   The mould quality possibly a little poor at that part of the No.  -  but no doubt in my mind that it is an '8'.    I had not previously seen the lettering - 'RGD' following the No.  -  neither had I seen a 'dot' in the middle of a No. before.       One of two possibilities perhaps...............either the maker of this bowl had their own way of showing the registration details (and chose to be a little different)  - or perhaps there was some edict around 1950 that required a change in the way details were shown (about the time that a single series of Nos. covered china/glass/metal).    Can someone else confirm please that I am correct with this last comment.           

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 11:38:27 AM »
It could just be that the maker decided to put a dot there. There may not have been any regulated format and don't think there's anything much to look into variations of a theme. For example, I have seen RG No., Reg. No., Reg. Des., etc. and even just the number on its own. Some patterns may not even have the number included.
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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 12:24:02 PM »
It might not even be English, seeing as lot of Continental European countries use a . in their thousands and a , for the decimal point.

What's the base rim finish like? In fact, I would say the style is not typically British, more a pseudo-cut European pattern.

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 01:28:05 PM »
I was thinking the same Christine, it's not a format I've seen in British registrations before. Do we have any examples of overseas registrations?

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 02:12:43 PM »
thanks for your thoughts, and I will provide a pic. of the base this evening. :)

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Re: unusual style of Reg. No.
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 08:18:18 PM »
here then is the base.........a radiating pressed star pattern - and the close up shows the mat grey wear on the corners.  Certainly not a pre war type of flat ground rim.   I think it would look even better filled with a sherry trifle, plus cream, plus broken walnuts.   Any takers to do the honours - I'll provide the spoons :24:

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