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Offline w84it

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Caithness Whitefriars?
« on: November 14, 2010, 07:13:05 PM »
Hi there.

I've just won this auction
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250725417420

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Not the most beautiful paperweight I've ever seen, but I'm guessing that it's from the period when Whitefriars went into Caithness ownership.

Is that right?

Note the whitefriars cane in the base.

Thanks

Keith

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Re: Caithness Whitefriars?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 07:35:37 PM »
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Re: Caithness Whitefriars?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 09:40:55 PM »
Yes it is, we have images in the queue for Scotland's Glass, Wolf may be able to add background as it does not show in leaflets to hand.
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Re: Caithness Whitefriars?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 10:36:53 PM »
OK - this is one of my favourite "mystery weights" ;) ... doesn't show up in any publication I'm aware of, but fairly frequently on ebay (got one myself). I have seen one auction with a certificate, stating "Butterfly Silhouette" as name, and Colin Terris as designer - but usually it is referred to as "Mini Butterfly"; "mini" as there is a larger version of almost identical design around, but I have seen only one to date.

The first date cane I have seen in it is 1983: the story goes that due to insufficient capacity at Caithness the weight was produced at J-Glass (John Deacons) for Caithness. As J-Glass closed in 1983 the later weights (latest one I have seen so far was 1993) must have been produced somewhere else, possibly actually the Caithness studio.

The weights show up faceted and unfaceted - with the unfaceted version usually marked as second (CIIG) - but your's doesn't seem to be marked, and as long as we don't have an official description, it cannot be excluded that also an unfaceted version was sold as first quality.

Now - if this is a Caithness weight, designed by Colin Terris, as stated on a certificate (which looks genuine to me) - why doesn't it show up in any sales material, nor the Charlton catalogue? One suggestion was, it was made for the US market only - but to be honest, I just don't know. Any further info on this weight would be most welcome.
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Re: Caithness Whitefriars?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 01:08:16 PM »
I have one of the facetted variety here in Melbourne.  I think I bought it off the local Ebay - so an "overseas" connection seems quite possible.  By the way it ought to be called a "moth" don't you think.  Finally I apologise the photo is not as sharp as I would like.

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Re: Caithness Whitefriars?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 07:06:25 PM »
You were right Wolf  -  it arrived today and it's a second with the CIIG marking etched into the base.  The only slight fault I can see is that the canes round the outside are sometimes slighlty smudged at the edge.   Still a nice little weight and for only £12 a bargain to me.

And thanks to the moderator who cleaned up the weblink for me.  Someday I'll learn how to post one properly!

Cheers

Keith
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