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Author Topic: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?  (Read 1639 times)

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Offline Ohio

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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2010, 06:43:31 PM »
Craig I looked through Frederick Carders Steuben Glass, Ketchum #1 which has the line drawings for 1402, no dimensions given & while I agree there one can expect variations in hand blown glass  I would say that in this case you are correct in saying this piece should be examined in hand for a positive attribution. I know your gut says Steuben, mine says maybe, but AA Seguso is a prime candidate because I  am aware of the situation that existed years ago when these appeared & were snapped up for the dremel trade. They (bowls, vases,colognes) were found in both Jade & Roseline & the shapes (with exception of the larger atomizers) were obviously carefully created to mimic the originals & that’s why I hesitate. Also with a piece in a color this highly prized I would be more inclined  to find a signature rather than not that I could compare to an original. Maybe I’m being too skeptical, but a great many people were taken in by these pieces over a two year span. There was also a problem with Calcite during this period produced by Poschinger, however the shapes were usually a bit far off. If you like Steuben there is a Diving Lady frog I IDed Monday evening for an individual that is currently on the bay (he had it originally listed a a hood ornament & promptly changed the listing) My good deed for the month.  Ken  

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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2010, 06:57:04 PM »
Ken,
Hands on is the only real resolution to solving a piece like this.... I would though, recommend to Janice that she take a loop and look very carefully at the entire base for a mark or remnants..... They can be extremely difficult to see. Not a guarantee as the marks have been forged....  but she could get lucky and find a genuine acid stamp or remnants of......  The forged marks are pretty easily discernible if a mark is there.....

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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 04:20:06 AM »
I did take a loupe and look at the bottom in good light and there is no sign of a mark. It may not be Steuben and that doesn't bother me because I bought it because I love the color. Thank you for all of your thoughts on my pretty pink bowl!
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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 04:27:38 AM »
Don't be discouraged or make a decision on it. Not all Steuben is marked, and not all marks survive use. Most acid stamps were on the underside of the glass.... only a small % are in the pontil. Although there are differing opinions here from well educated glassies, I am still of the belief it is a piece of Steuben.... That is half the fun of all this.....

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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2010, 12:03:21 AM »
It would be fantastic if we could find images of known AA pieces and known Steuben for comparison... Sigh - it's horrible when very nice copies are made and end up on the secondary market.

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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2010, 12:25:50 AM »
To complicate things, I ran into some pictures of Archimede Seguso alabastro bottles in the same color with the circular polished pontil. So I think we can put what Ohio wrote a rung higher in considerations.
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Re: Pink bowl, alabaster? opalino? rose?
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2010, 03:22:42 AM »
I have no idea :spls:-- but it does look kinda like this color Here

...and I have never seen/or handled a piece of Steuban either so ????  So I am clueless.....  :pb:
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