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Author Topic: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BM". ID = IOW for British Museum!  (Read 11030 times)

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Is this IOW? If so is it pattern "Azurene"
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 11:44:09 AM »
Benny Motzfeldt's "signature" is BM, marked on the botom of the glass, but it's definitely NOT by her!

But Ross, you can get in the queue for a bit of IoWSG "British Museum" - I've been hanging in there for ages.
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 02:28:58 PM »
Well after months of nil response from the British Museum I have taken what I hope are much more comprehensive photos and am asking for your expertise again.

Ross
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 03:45:37 PM »
Hi Is the base flat or concaved?
I'm almost certain that its a piece of Okra from the Moorcroft days.  I certainly recognise the way in which it has been signed. Colourways are correct as well.

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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2011, 01:51:39 AM »
The base is flat, Mike.  It has almost no wear - a pity the label is has had the top layer come off.  I never even thought of Okra - where were the brains looking when I tried to identify it before.  :-[

Looking now the almost spherical shape is obviously different from any IOW azurene weight I have ever seen.  But I do have an OKRA "Nebula" pwt and I never even thought of them because the label is a longish rectangle as opposed to the almost square one on this weight.

Can you give me approximate years, please Mike.

Ross
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 09:22:28 AM »
Hi Ross.
I think the label is a red herring as that maybe the remnants of an old stock label or auction label.
2001 is OK for the year as they were still under Moorcroft ownership and they had many Glassblowers many of whom were not very good. I dont mean to be rude about your weight but its not up to the quality that you normally expect from them and if Richard had seen this weight he would have binned it.
I need to delve into my archives so as soon as I have found a definite match I'll post it on here for you.
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2011, 06:03:38 PM »
Hi Roos,
Chapter and verse with the help of my dear old friend (very old) Ron @ Artius Glass.
This is a range produced in 1993 by Tim Harris for an exclusive range for the British Museum. The E is in fact a C for 'copyright. Rarely come to light. Doesn't fetch big money but perfume bottles and vases from the range do.
We always get there in the end.
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2011, 01:42:53 AM »
Thanks for the help, Mike.  Does the fact it is from Tim Harris mean that it is in fact IOW after all?

I previously wrote ' The base reads "© 2001 BM" ' so I assume the range was produced for some time.

Ross
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2011, 11:14:04 AM »
Hi Ross.
Yes definitely IOW.
The label remnant probably whats left of British Museum stock label. Quite often when you make things for retail org or august organisation such as the BM they do not want where a thing is made identified with a makers label or artists signature.
I will find out how long it was roughly made for.
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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2011, 03:47:13 PM »
According to Ron they only placed two orders 1993/94
Mike

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Re: Not an IOW item - signed "2001 BW"
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2011, 04:50:22 PM »
To quote a well known lass "Curioser & curioser".  Perhaps the BM simply engraved stock when they felt like it.

Once again thanks to Mike and to Ron for being so generous with your time to research it.

Fascinating that my first guess (IOW) was in fact correct - but after all this time some mystery remains.

Ross
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