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Author Topic: Made by New Martinsville US or Libochovice or Rosice CZ ?  (Read 3192 times)

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Offline Bonsaismurf

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Made by New Martinsville US or Libochovice or Rosice CZ ?
« on: December 18, 2010, 12:58:14 PM »
Hello!

I found this vase and I was sure it was a Libochovice vase. I thought it was pattern no. 1584 but when I got home and compared them the proportions don't seem to match. Any ideas?

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 01:23:09 PM »
I don't think Marcus's CD necessarily shows all the variants. I would say your ID was correct

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 06:28:00 PM »
Thanks for the support, Christine! I've found another image of the Libochovice pattern, and it doesn't look much like mine. It's the one in blue to the far right:

http://www.miloslavbecka.cz/editace/album/album/055.JPG (big image!!!)

...so I'm still not convinced. A possible explanation could be that mine is relatively new and that the pattern has changed somewhat since the 20's?

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 12:17:30 AM »
Emil, I don't think your vase is the Libochovice 1584 - the bird wings are different, and the whole just looks wrong. Pattern 1584 is given in the 1920's and the 1950s catalogues as 25cm (10") tall and made in clear, colours, and frosted.

Neither do I think yours is the version made by Rosice, pattern 2472, also given as 25cm tall, but in the taller, slimmer shape of yours (see the 1957 Rosice catalogue on the CD - page 34) as the base shape and the top rim style are different.

What are the dimensions of your vase, Emil?

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 12:31:13 AM »
Pamela has what appears to be the same vase as yours but in green in her museum, also attributed as Libochovice 1584, but neither yours nor hers match the catalogue pattern images.
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/05212.html

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 10:54:04 AM »
Thanks for the input Anne! I hear what you're saying and there's a good chance you're right. On the other hand there are examples where the illustration of the pattern on the CD differs substantially from the actual object (such as Vizner vase 13141).

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 03:23:09 PM »
What size is your vase please?

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 06:14:58 PM »
It's 26.2cm.

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 07:28:24 PM »
So slightly bigger than the catalogue versions but not by much.... curious!

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 04:42:00 PM »
Hello, just a thought but, Hofbauer, Anne Hutte. Only  because their pieces have birds on (a little knowledge is dangerous) I know very little but am learning a lot from here.
Pete. :-)

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