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Offline Frank

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 11:09:21 AM »
Either could be a copy so a new route always helps. Just need one of their catalogues  :huh:

I think Emil's is a closer match to Rosice 2472 and Pamela's the Libochovice 1584. The Rosice catalogue example is loosely drawn.
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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 11:42:11 AM »
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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 10:17:04 AM »
Hi there
I believe Libochovice is the maker of your vase. It came in 2 different sizes. The smaller one measures at 16cm tall. Dressing table set in similar pattern is also been made.

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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 11:24:46 PM »
Frank, how do you know this is 60's/70's please?
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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2012, 11:41:57 AM »
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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2012, 03:39:06 PM »
The possibility exists that this in not even European. New Martinsville made this vase in several sizes during the early 30s. The 1934 ad is below. Ken


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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2012, 09:41:19 PM »
Adds another size 23cm 9" height :) as well as maker and colours. Nice find. Now to find the differences....

example http://www.kandmantiques.com/Articles/PatternsDefinitions/NewMartinsvillePatterns.html size 10 1/4" 26cm green

http://chataboutdg.com/gallery/img15948.htm no size in clear


Looking at other New Martinsville products I think they either copied other Czech glass or bought copies of the moulds.
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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2012, 03:23:02 AM »
Yes its entirely possible NM either copied the design...not sure they had any molds though as both the Czech & U.S. versions run roughly the same time periods. NM also made a direct copy of the Czech Lady Face bookends. I do know that Harry Barth (Barth Art Glass & former manager of NM) made a copy of the tall standing horse originally designed by Mario Petrucci & Barth made them around 1944. Additionally Several New Martinsville animals molds were actually designed by private giftware distributors (Wiel Freeman, Ebeling & Reuss, and Marks and Rosenfeld) & molds made by NM, but ownership was maintained by the distributors.  Example: Molds for the Tigers, Head Up Horse, Eagle & Nautilus figures production in late 1940 were owned by Wiel Freeman. The Starfish & Seahorse originally attributed to NM in early references have turned out to be Paden City production from Barth molds & Harry sold many of his animal molds to NM in 1952 so that caused the confusion as to original attribution. Ken


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Re: Libochovice?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2012, 08:38:53 AM »
But were they copies or purchased rights to copy. It is even possible that they were making on behalf of a czech co pre WW2 and just assumed ownership of moulds after ww2. Czechs were putting moulds to other countries, Lord/Jacobean for example. Not particularly well documented types of deals as often it was done to save shipping costs and original country still sold as made there rather than local.
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