Topic: Art Deco green vase red 'flame' splotches - Schneider

[chopin-liszt]

Definitely not Monart!

[flying free]

No, but what is it?  ... these are gorgeous pieces of glass, surely someone has seen one somewhere else.
I 'think' that looks like the same maker as mine, although there are differences.  And having seen it now in the yellow and green I feel more sure that it is neither Schneider nor Ikora.  I feel it is Czechoslovakian.
They are beautifully made and I'm pretty sure they are original Deco pieces.
I want that vase!  but they want loads to post it to me 
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[flying free]

Just reviving this topic....again 
the vase I linked to on ebay has disappeared but it has been relisted
link here
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/french-cameo-glass-art-deco-vase-schneider-mushroom-red-green-france-paris-/200681101111?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item2eb9869737
The signature is a stamped acid mark SCHNEIDER and it looks ok to me, but I have to say I've not seen another in the flesh so that's not saying much.

I'm attaching the good picture of my vase again here.

In the meantime I've found this vase at Valerio Art Deco site which is similarly 'splashy'. 
http://www.valerioartdeco.com/charles+schneider+vase+c3565/
Not the same colours but a similar ish effect.  Unfortunately there's no close up of the decor but thoughts on similarity to mine and the linked one on ebay would be appreciated.  Is it way off, or is there a likeness... or is it just me?  Admittedly the similarities are vague I think but ....



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[Ivo]

It would be great if this solved the issue - but I'm afraid I just worked through the Schneider catalogue and all the model drawings - and neither the ringed vase nor the ebay one with the drooping rim is apparent. I cannot see the signature, but this should be sandblasted or engraved.
Charles did some weird and wonderful things - and he may well have been capable of designing the piece in question. Just didn't make it to the catalogue...

[flying free]

thank you so much Ivo 
I think the signature is engraved or incised onto the base rim of the vase.  Mine has none though. 
Thanks for taking the time to go through the books.  I think given you have not found either the decor or the shapes of the two of them in there and there are not enough similarities with what I have found to make it a credible possible, I will give up on the Schneider angle now.
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[flying free]

Ivo, can you take a look at the WMF book please if you have time?
page 138, bowls at the bottom, the left hand one particularly looks to have 'flame' effect splotches similar to my vase (pics are in black and white so difficult to tell) and the colours for those bowls are described as orange-grun 4089 - just wondering what you think as to a possible? 
and also page 132 top row 53/376 - those spotches look familiar ... or is it just me?
I know this is an outside shot because of the shapes I've found as well as the green on them ... but just wondering
thanks
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[Ivo]

As far as I can see the red/green of the Ikora pieces are splotched against a clear background and not red splotches on a solid green background. I also miss the shape. Not saying it isn't - and not saying it is.

[flying free]

Thank you - much appreciated 
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[flying free]

ok while I'm on a roll 
I found this sold via Quittenbaum 2005
WMF, Geislingen. 'Ikora'-bowl, 1940s. H. 14 cm; Dm
It is a large bowl shaped vase but with the turned over roll rim  and a small foot , bears shape similarities with the green splotch red vase I linked to apparently signed Schneider
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1266858
Is it definitely Ikora?
the vase I linked to with a Schneider signature is here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/french-cameo-glass-art-deco-vase-schneider-mushroom-red-green-france-paris-/200681101111?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item2eb9869737
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[dirk.]

I think the bowl´s definitely Ikora - if you e.g. look at the white crizzle effect. The colour
scheme´s not too unusual either, although the turned-over rim is something I wouldn´t
necessarily associate with Ikora. I couldn´t find this shape in the book, so it may be a
test piece or have been made after work.