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Offline tortentaumel

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Sabino ashtray history
« on: January 10, 2011, 03:13:39 PM »
Hello

I own two Sabino ashtrays of the same kind. One is a little damaged and the other one i recently bought is unpolished.
I look for these ashtrays since years and i can not find out their history (amount made,date of production, purpose for production)
via internet. Sabino art glass.com gave me very unkind answers and they seem to not know anything or they don't want to tell me.
They insisted on the fact that the intact ashtray is unpolished,unfinished and that it is trash that somebody picked out of the
thrashcan in the production place.
I google these ashtrays since years and i never find them in the entire internet. Though i believe they are a rare object.
Anybody who can give me informations about these ashtrays is welcome and i am interested to buy more of them.

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Torsten

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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 03:26:08 PM »
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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 03:31:16 PM »
i love the design of these ashtrays and i would like to find out everything known about them.

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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 05:17:41 PM »
Has nobody have an idea about these ashtrays? They are signed with "Sabino France" and the first one, who was dropped and got damaged was bought by me in Switzerland. The second one, unpolished and "trash" i bought recently through a "petit annonce" in France. I have never found this ashtray again. Therefore i think it is a rare piece of Sabino. Who knows more ?
Thanks in advance 

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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 06:00:40 PM »
Hi and welcome to the gmb.
Please have a bit of patience - it can take time for the right person to come along to answer your query. We're all here because of an interest in glass and sharing info. about it, but it's all strictly on a volunteer basis.

I've certainly never seen one of these before, I think they're lovely - hang onto your "trash"!!!!!!

(a massive collection of these would make a glorious wall of glass "tiles"  :thup: )
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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 10:04:07 PM »
Hi
as Sue says, hang on in there and hopefully someone will be along to help. Personally I think they utterly amazing and very beautiful.  I wonder if they were made for a hotel or similar?  what size are they?

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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 01:38:41 AM »
Why are you disregarding what Sabino have told you about the unpolished item? It sounds perfectly reasonable to me...
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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 09:40:18 AM »
Hi Anne
Sabino artglass is right about the unpolished one. But they only answered me that i bought trash without
any further information about these objects. Even my remark that i would own another one which is polished
did not show any reactions by them. The ashtrays are about 12 cm to 12 cm size. Hight is around 2 cm.


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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 11:16:11 AM »
Hi Torsten,

Sabino Art Glass is an American company who now own Sabino's moulds and still produce in France, mainly for export to the US. I've contacted them in the past and haven't found them very helpful either.

Your ashtrays aren't especially rare, but I believe they are no longer in production. The pattern is shown in Philippe Decelle's Sabino Maitre Verrier de L'Art Deco 1878-1961 as no. 9077 Les Fleurs. The price in 1931 was 35 Francs for coloured or 40 Francs for Opal.

Regarding finishing, I have to say that pre-war Sabino can be quite variable. When you say unpolished do you mean not mechanically polished or not fire-polished? I'd think it not unusual for functional items like ashtrays to receive little in the way of polishing. Also different batches can be finished quite differently so I wouldn't worry about the lack of polishing.

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Re: Sabino ashtray history
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 11:42:59 AM »
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Regarding finishing, I have to say that pre-war Sabino can be quite variable. When you say unpolished do you mean not mechanically polished or not fire-polished? I'd think it not unusual for functional items like ashtrays to receive little in the way of polishing. Also different batches can be finished quite differently so I wouldn't worry about the lack of polishing.

I think he means that one is opalescent all over and the other only round the sides

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