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Author Topic: Bohemian red - pink iridescent vase  (Read 8322 times)

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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 01:58:25 PM »
On page 175 of Das Bohmische Glas1700-1950 Band iv in the section for Glasfabrik Elisabeth there is a plate with three vases on.  The right hand one appears to be in this deep pink red iridescent finish and appears to have the same applied dark purple iridescence on it in the form of rigaree ending in prunts with the same or very similar little tooling mark.  In addition, the rose bowl next to it has prunts on it in the same purple iridescence which look very like my prunts but they don't have the tool twist in the middle. 
I think these vases are Glasfabrik Elisabeth, Kosten bei Teplitz.  The one is the book is dated 1900-1910.
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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 12:39:10 AM »
ok, I have finally refound the collectors weekly post (and put the link on here now) and I can see that this information has already been mooted and queried - I'd not been able to find the link and when I saw them in the book just merrily added information already mentioned on the Collectors Weekly thread.
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/19093-bohemian-vase-16-tall-glasfabrik-eli

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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 10:52:57 PM »
Just in case anyone is reading this thread I have a question please?
is the query about whether it is Glasfabrik Elisabeth or Kralik, over the identification in Das Bohmische Glas IV being incorrect for the vase on page 175? or is it that Kralik may have made a very similar item?
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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2013, 10:13:02 PM »
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/83054-the-apple-of-my-eye?in=442
this vase has been identified as Kralik by the poster.
The iridescence and the way it is applied and the colour is very reminiscent of my vase.
The finish isn't the same, the piece in the CW post has a cut and polished rim and a mold blown base, whereas mine has a neat and polished pontil mark and a fire polished rim.

Can anyone confirm the CW vase is definitely Kralik please? 
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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 07:39:56 PM »
I know I'm talking to myself here but I'm still wondering about my vase :)

I came across this identification in Pressglas-korrespondent for a vase id'd as Glasfabrik Elisabeth, Kosten bei Teplitz .

I know it's not the same vase but it really reminds me of my vase in terms of shape so I'm posting it anyway.
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2014-4w-kellerer-pallme-habel-elisabethhuette-kosten.pdf

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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2015, 07:50:31 PM »
You talk alone. but some  listen to you  :)  :)  :)  :)   
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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2015, 08:03:44 PM »
I shall remember those words - thank you  :)

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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 08:10:59 PM »
looking back my photos don't do the colour justice but I think it's the same as this piece with dragonflies on the silver collar.
Just adding it in case it helps with a future id
https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/catalog/78/434/lot/17434

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Re: Bohemian red – pink iridescent vase
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2019, 07:52:14 PM »
hmm, you wait and wait and then something comes along.
On this Bohemian glass site, I believe this is identified as Pallme Koenig 1900-1909 (no reference source though):

http://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-rosa-glatt-mit-nuppen-v-montazi-4273/detail/

see two more versions as well:

http://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/pallme-koenig1/rosa-glatt-mit-nuppen-rigaree/


If this is a definitive id then I'd still be interested to know the name of the factory when it was produced - harking back to my previous post in this thread:

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I have a vase now that is the same colour, same prunts as yours (just waiting for camera to charge to put a picture on) and appears to have the same pulled rim as this vase here (see link) which is id'd as Glasfabrik Elisabeth, Kosten by Teplitz

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/4343365
If so, then is this a definite identification?
Just trying to understand the Elisabethhutte/Glasfabrik Elisabeth/Pallme Koenig factories, it seems from Truitt's page 103 Bohemian Glass 1880-1940, that between 1888 and 1907 the manufucturer would be known as Elisabethhutte (Kosten near Teplice), then after it merged with Pallme Koenig in 1907 it became known as Glasfabrik Elisabeth, Pallme Koenig & Habel.  I hope I understood that correctly?
If so, I wonder which era the link was referring to in terms of dating the vase as it appears to have mixed both names? confused  :-\
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