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Offline tropdevin

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Baccarat - surely not
« on: February 21, 2011, 09:19:59 PM »
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This paperweight looks very like a Murano to me....any views?

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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 09:36:25 PM »
Definitely!  Just like one of my Murano collection! 
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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 09:44:30 PM »
From what I can see in the photos, your Murano is much prettier.

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 09:51:51 PM »
Thank you, Lily  :kissy: I think so too, but the style and construction appear to me to be identical  :)
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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 11:01:21 PM »
You're very welcome, Leni!  While the style and construction may be the same, to my eye, the colors in yours are more attractive.

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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 09:06:53 AM »
Are the scored lines across the base a "Baccarat" feature or a "Murano" feature.  I notice your Murano weight does not have them.  I will have a look in some books and see what I can turn up.

I like both weights extremely :o :mrgreen: - no matter who made them.

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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 10:39:32 AM »
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I have told the seller it is Murano (and so has a friend of mine). He got a very patronising reply, I got a polite but dismissive reply as below:

Description: Beautiful double overlay Art glass paperweight features blue cut to white to clear design with multicolored millefiori center. The base has a paper label BIRKS # 2306, otherwise unsigned but attributed to Baccarat - less than a quarter of the Antique paperweights made by Baccarat contain date or signature canes......Dimensions : 2-1/2" x 2-1/2" x by 2-3/8" high. It is in excellent condition, no damage, chips or repairs. This is what I found on a different site. It is a Baccarat Millefiori but thank you very much for the information.
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I don't understand the relevance of providing a description of a different paperweight on a different site.

There's none so blind as them that cannot see...

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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 10:06:29 PM »
I don't understand the relevance of providing a description of a different paperweight on a different site.

Correct - the description doesn't mean anything.
I had also informed the seller that this was a Murano - and got a somewhat similar response (like "this is Baccarat ... see another offer ..."). When I asked for the URL I got the following address:
http://www.goantiques.com/detail,vintage-baccarat-overlay,1812779.html
which obviously is the site from which the description (quoted by Alan) came.

OK - what is this one? I would say - another Murano: all you need to start with, is an incorrect attribution - which then can be recycled endlessly for other incorrect attributions :cry:.

A more general question: according to the above auction, it is a Baccarat made in the 1930-40's ... did Baccarat make paperweights during this time frame, I mean Baccarat, not Baccarat-Dupont.
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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 11:02:57 PM »
Hi Alan thats a coincidence ,it looks like it has come from the same stable as my one on ebay that i asked for your opinion a couple of days ago , we both agreed that was Murano .

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Re: Baccarat - surely not
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 11:13:37 PM »
All of the weights referred to above are Murano. With or without cross-cut bases. With or without a "mushroom stem" beneath the millefiori. With four or five side facets. The canes are Murano. The weights are Murano.
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