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Offline Paul S.

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date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« on: March 07, 2011, 08:47:25 PM »
very stylized, although guess it is supposed to be something like a swan or mythical water bird.   When I first picked it up I though it was just opalecent, but as you can see, when viewed against bright sunlight it shows the firey glow of opaline - do people agree, and is this an uncommon process with tourist Murano?   Very top to bottom is is about 9"/230mm, and remarkably without any damage.  I have seen a variety of birds and ducks etc. but not one in opaline - and especially pleased that it has the label intact still.     Very grateful for any guide to age please, and thanks for looking :)


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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 09:36:10 PM »
 :hi: Paul:

Your Label is Fratelli Toso....as that is what I have on my big vase here.  I think my label is in the Glass Gallery HERE    and for other Murano labels See here-Glass Gallery

Good one  :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp: :thup:
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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 09:40:16 PM »
Rose is right in the ID. It is a type of glass known as opalino. These types of bowls were made c. 1960. It's a very pretty bowl. Many people like this shade of opalino.
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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 10:11:03 PM »
Ladies, very many thanks indeed to both of you, especially antiquerose for being so quick with the answer and the links.    I try to avoid animals etc., but guess most of us here would fall victim to bringing home something like this.    I now have three pieces of opaline, although apart from this one they are from late C19 - early C20, where you might more usually expect to find them.  thanks again :thup:


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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2011, 10:40:54 AM »
Very beautiful Paul, and how lucky to have no damage and still have the label..... :thup:

Can anyone explain the difference between opaline and opalescent please? :usd:
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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2011, 01:52:04 PM »
Here is the definition of opaline - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opaline_glass  Here is an example also:  http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/murano-venini-blue-opaline-glass-11-vase-signed

Here is the definition of opalescent - http://reviews.ebay.com/Opalescent-Glass-What-is-it_W0QQugidZ10000000000954451

I hope this helps, Rosie.   ;)

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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2011, 03:00:27 PM »
Thank you Tam Bam,  I will read those a few times until I feel I really understand the difference......at the moment, I see Paul's swan as opalescent. :pb: because my squirrel has the same fiery red colour when shown in bright light, but almost impossible to catch on a photo. and I thought that was like my little birds as well?????
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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2011, 07:05:33 PM »
Hmm, I'm not sure about those definitions because Paul's swan is definitely opalescent
http://www.glassencyclopedia.com/opalescentglass.html


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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2011, 07:12:21 PM »
Your so very welcome, Rosie.  I have two opalescent AS jars my husband bought from Anita about a year ago.  I'll post those for you.  I also have a Venini opaline vase.  I will also post it for you.  :)

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Re: date request for Murano bird (swan?)
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2011, 07:35:33 PM »
I see what you are saying Christine.  The wikipedia definition is not what I expected it to be for opaline glass.  Sorry about that.  I just noticed it.  I was in a hurry and didn't read it all the way through.  Here is a pair of lamps I found.  http://www.1stdibs.com/furniture_item_detail.php?id=446391  These are a better example and is what I think of when I think opaline glass.  But the swan (which is very nice, btw) is opalescent for sure.  I see fire in it like an opal.  That is how I try to keep the two straight in my mind.     

 

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