No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Decanter ish thing with bulges/ribs, amber glass trails/drips sold as Bohemian  (Read 11942 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
this was a patent registered in 1934
http://www.google.com/patents/US1983151

It doesn't appear to be saying much different to the Franz Welz patent - but I am very much a layman.

This article written in 1912 acknowledges Franz Welz's patent being '21 years ago' i.e. 1891 - please see first and second paragraphs where this is described in detail.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ie50043a031?journalCode=iechad.1

source: Journal of Industrial and Engineering Chemistry July 1912

edited to add - and certainly it appears to me, red glass using selenium was created much earlier than the 1920s.
m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
mm, I have now completely thought myself out of the Regenhutte possibility and I'm not at all keen on Romanian since I cannot find a single thing that might indicate this.  But I will explore this as an option now.  Were the pieces you saw identical Ivo including colour please?
Thanks
m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Ivo

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 8170
  • Gender: Male
Yes absolutely.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
Thanks Ivo. 

m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
with regard the use of selenium in glass in the 1890s:
Source:
This article appeared in the Review on Glass No 1 2012
reference the 2010 International Council of Museums Glass meeting
http://network.icom.museum/fileadmin/user_upload/minisites/glass/review_on_glass_1_01.pdf
page 28
in describing Schreiber and Neffen production:
'For example luxury pink coloured glass called 'Lachsrosa' has been produced since 1892, when the selenium dye technology was patented by the owner of the Glass works Franz Welz from Hrob near Teplice'

m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Ivo

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 8170
  • Gender: Male
Lachsrosa = salmon pink.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
Ivo said
'I have seen this bottle on antique marketS on three different occasions. One dealer told me he thought it was from Romania which I am willing to believe. Alternative is of course Regenhütte.
The Selenium red and Cadmium and sulphur yellow is a 'strike' colour which is produced on reheating - which the Welz patent excludes. I would place this colour much later, more in the Frederick Carder era.'

I think not Romanian but Ukrainian folk glass maybe 1948 ish see attached pics:

The attached picture is mine from my own exhibition catalogue pages.
The pink piece was made by Piotr Semenenko and was one of his first pieces appearing at an exhibition of Ukrainian folk art in 1948.

See also the green enamelled decanter in this link - clearly a shape they favour
http://kyivcity.travel/discover_kyiv/choose_your_kyiv/kyiv_culture/museums/national-museum-of-ukrainian-decorative-folk-art

m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 9857
    • UK
Re my post above, I meant to say that it was Ivo's suggestion which led me to re-look at Ukrainian glass.

Here on this blog about Ukraine are some pieces with the variegated orangey selenium glass

http://orpheusandlyra.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/petrykivka_ukraine_5.jpg
http://orpheusandlyra.tripod.com/id27.html

They are different and look more recent than my piece but that handle appears to be a 'marker' in some way.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Look for glass on
ebay.co.uk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Look for glass on
ebay.com (us)
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand