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Author Topic: Decanter ish thing with bulges/ribs, amber glass trails/drips sold as Bohemian  (Read 4171 times)

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'Personally I am most underwhelmed by an attribution that says "Stevens & Williams OR Orrefors" - it is too close to "whatever"'
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link to another post with a similar type of decoration
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,46401.msg260613.html#msg260613


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Not the same as mine and I think 'younger' than where I would put my decanter age wise, but the same technique.  This link is to a small 3 1/2" round vertically ribbed vase with a slightly flared neck and rim.  The dot trails are horizontal and red on clear and it is labelled with an oval foil label with writing stating 'SINCE 1776 Royal Brierley HANDMADE IN ENGLAND'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230761203678?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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It seems Poschinger also used this decoration
this jug has the dots in a very dark colour  I think dark amethyst, on a ribbed clear glass or an oddly very pale pinky colour, jug (23.2cm high which is 9 1/8") but they look as though they are done in the same way- dates given as 1890-1910
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Henkelkrug-mit-Farbaufschmelzungen-Poschinger-um-1890-/230705519670?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item35b71edc36


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Nice when these trails lead to discoveries that trash half the logic so far  ::)

Back to Ivo's UGO
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I haven't found a reference for the Poschinger attribution however the glass on that site is normally fairly well id'd I think.
That said, Poschinger did make a 'cinderella ballgown' type piece with a side handle and trailing and prunts on it, so it's not out of the question that mine 'could' be by them I guess.  It has more similarities with that jug than anything else I have seen so far...just musing here though.
It could also make it earlier than the 30's.
If that information is correct, it's odd that the technique was patented here in 1905 isn't it?
How would you patent a technique that was clearly used earlier if that dating is correct on the jug?
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How would you patent a technique that was clearly used earlier if that dating is correct on the jug?
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Prior art is up to patent office to trace and if no one relevant saw the patent journal entry it would go through.
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searching for 'Nailsea' glass items I came cross this flask,ribbed white opal glass trailed with bright pink dotted trails, with horizontal 'stretched' dots on the ribs...appears to have been made with a similar technique and appears to be earlier than 1905 possibly.

http://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/object/997848
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Not the same as mine and I think 'younger' than where I would put my decanter age wise, but the same technique. ... 'SINCE 1776 Royal Brierley HANDMADE IN ENGLAND'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230761203678?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Nice base shot that makes explaining the technique very easy.
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http://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/object/997848
Same collection Sizebergh Castle but excluding ´type' from description and adding 300 year date range.
http://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/object/997856
http://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/object/997855

National trust collection as a whole has about 50 pieces of 'Nailsea' glass
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