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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 09:59:15 PM »
Hi, I never mix business with pleasure and never promote my eBay account on here, though it's no secret I am a glass dealer so like most pieces I place on here it will be listed at some point.
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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 10:47:37 AM »
Edited to add:
hmmm, I typed all the below in italics then realised Barovier was the id for this.
Is there a reference source for that please?


I bought Chris' plate and am no further on ideas for it.
I don't think my plate is a Murano piece.  The rim is cut not fire polished.

But I did find a previous post from Kev with a plate on it, so thought I'd link it here.
According to that post the plate was bought in India and not sold as old but no definitive on where it was made.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,20588.msg116972.html#msg116972
However I have found a silver coloured item that has a look to me of 'made in India' that also has face canes in it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Venitian-Murano-glass-trinket-box-encased-in-silver-/131158565206?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item1e89a8e156
Not quite the same as my plate. I think they are part of a complex cane slice with millefiori flowers in it and an eye cane.
I'm wondering if these might have been made in Murano but bought in to add into the item or in the case of my plate, if it were made elsewhere, bought in to make the plate. 

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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2014, 12:20:14 PM »
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42081.msg234059.html#msg234059

Link here to a thread where Alpha says that the smiley face canes in that particular piece are from China.
Is this a confirmed identification of them please?

N.B. The smiley face on that piece does not appear to be the same as on my plate or on Ivo's small vase or glass.
The faces on my plate and on Ivo's piece DO appear to be the same.
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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2014, 09:54:37 PM »
My apologies - just doing some more searching and went back to check the post from Kev and I realised I  misquoted what Kev said   :-[
His post commented on beads (bought in India) and a plate (bought separately)-
i.e. no mention of that plate being bought in India as I mistakenly said earlier.
This is a link to a photograph of said plate
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-9803


So I think I'm looking for a source for the Barovier identification please.

Edited - ah, I have finally found another thread with more discussion on it:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2454.msg18157.html#msg18157

But no definitive Barovier source I don't think?

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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2015, 10:30:54 PM »
more info here on the face canes in my plate being used in bead form
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2454.msg344475.html#msg344475

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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2015, 10:26:10 AM »
Just adding the photos instead of the album link


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Re: Murano dish with Murrines ? = Barovier
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2015, 06:45:00 PM »
is it my imagination or are the face beads on the first two pictures or at least the first one on the left, the same cane as one of those in my plate?
These are being sold as vintage (c 1970s ) Indian beads.
http://estatebeads.com/Glass/glass_mixes.php#.VhAj5_lViko

I've added some more pictures of the plate as I think there are two faces - the one with dark nose and red mouth and another in pink.

I have a question as well:  The rim of this bowl is cut and ground not polished. Very thin really and quite uneven.  Is that typical of Murano makers? 
And how was the bowl made to create a thin cut rim?  I'm curious because of another bowl I will post separately on.  I made a bowl earlier this year and it ended up with a fire polished or rather, rounded rim with the pontil mark on the base where I cracked it off.
I can't image how you would make a bowl with a cut rim?  is it blown, cracked off the pontil rod and then where cracked off, opened out flat over a shaped support?

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