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But is it a paperweight?
David555:
Hi Kev
I thought seeing similar lampwork flowers in recent JD paperweights might help us assess the lampwork flower on eBay said to be by him, it may also help you with the identifying one of the assistants you talk about. These paperweights are 2002 onwards.
All these are a selection from my own collection
Paperweight 1
Paperweight 2
Paperweight 3
Paperweight 4
Paperweight 5
Paperweight 6
The 'King-size' description is a bit weird as it scans with the size of the lampwork in my weights?
I also don't believe it is as old as they are saying - I think it’s pretty new.
I see similarities but as Frank states not enough to pay that price; these weights can be bought for under £50.00 on eBay. I sold about twenty last year and got only £35 for some real crackers. If I was going to buy I would want a ID cane to go with it.
Adam P
RAY:
i have some lampwork by Rosie Fleming, this is the best one below
David555:
That is a superb piece of lampwork Ray - much better than the one being sold on eBay IMHO
What it shares in common with the eBay one and the flowers in my weights is the centre made up from tiny beads of glass. That is such a JD thing (was this standard practice with all lampwork flowers regardless of the designer, it's like a JD signature)
I am more assured that the eBay flower is J Deacons - except note the flower petals on Ray's piece and in my weights - then look at the eBay items petals
Adam P
KevinH:
Thanks Adam, but it doesn't really help, unless we already know what features can identify a particular lampworker. In most cases the lampworkers are never identified.
All most folk (myself included) can say, is that those weights, having a JD signature cane, were made by John Deacons but the lampork ... not easy to tell. There may be folk who can recognise the elements, but I am not one of them!
However, it's interesting to note the different forms of workmanship across the weights, both in the lampwork and the setting in the weight. My own view is:
1 has good work and setting
2 is quite poor, with parts not connecting as they should and even the sig cane is at an angle
3 is ok but again the sig cane loses out
4 this is best of all, in all respects
5 hmm ... what's that central flower doing ... wilting? And the red "leaves" of the pink flower don't seem too well balanced
6 this is ok but lacks something I can't quite identify
My comments are based on my perceived quality of the finished article and my personal tastes. Even the poorer examples take skill to produce.
RAY:
hi Adam
John usually only make's the weight's but sometimes lampwork as far as i'm aware,
like Kev said is it by John?, lampwork can look the same as in the 2 weights below, the one on the right is by J glass 1980, lampwork by Allan Scott the one on the left is Phoenix paperweights 2002, lampwork by Rosie Fleming
i will try and catch Allan Scott so he can say his 2p's worth, if anybody know's lampwork he does
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