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Offline j3lly

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Caithness Stardust 97/500
« on: May 26, 2011, 05:21:45 PM »
Hi
I am trying to get a valuation of Caithness Stardust 97/500
It is in mint condition
Has is original presentation case and certificate of authenticity

Thanks


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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 09:01:48 AM »
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Hi.  Most Caithness paperweights now trade at 20% to 40% of issue price - sometimes less.  Stardust issued at £20.00, so I would be surprised if it could be sold for more than £10.00.

Alan

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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 07:38:17 PM »
Thanks for the reply Alan
Seen this one sell for £120 on Ebay no case and no certificate
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAITHNESS-STARDUST-LTD-ED-PAPERWEIGHT-c-1973-RARE-/280655173315
It's the reason I am asking the question

Would never consider selling it as it was a gift from my mother my father ( Both passed )

Just curious


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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 08:33:52 PM »
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I'm gobsmacked! I have sold 40 Caithness of similar vintage and issue value over the last year or so, and not one got anywhere near that sort of price.  I guess it just shows that if you ask a high price to start with, just once in a while the fish will bite....it wasn't even a contest between two keen bidders.

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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 06:14:55 AM »
There are two aspects - the first one already mentioned by Alan: a fairly high start price - and someone just wanting that particular weight. If the start price had been lower, there is a fair chance of also a single bid only .... and the weight would have gone for less.

"Most Caithness paperweights now trade at 20% to 40% of issue price - sometimes less" is not quite true for the first few Caithness years, I believe. What certainly is correct is that most weights sell for less than 50% of the "Charlton price". Now - for more recent weights Charlton price and issue price usually don't differ (at least not by much) - so Alan's statement will apply. For early weights, however, they sometimes differ a lot (one has to be careful, though: Charlton includes a fair number of typos!): Stardust is valued in Charlton as £ 250 ... so the £ 120 are just within the "below 50% range".

BTW - in Jan 2008 the same weight sold on ebay for £ 85.
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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 08:00:21 AM »
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Thanks Wuff - a useful analysis. Any idea how long the term 'early' applies for? Five years or so?

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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 05:50:06 PM »
Any idea how long the term 'early' applies for? Five years or so?

There is no clearcut border, of course, but a pronounced trend for the first 5 to 10 years - see graph. These statistics are very(!) basic, indeed: edition sizes not considered, sets counted only once, maximum 9 samples per year (for years with larger production), ....: check the list if you are interested in the detail. Nevertheless the graph should indicate the order of magnitude.
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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 06:03:12 PM »
Ah, now here's the question.  Anybody know the rough profile for the antiques?  Presumably, they dropped to almost nothing for 70 years or so?

So, maybe buy Moonflowers now - sell in 100 years time....

Graham


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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 06:24:50 PM »
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I'm with you on that - buy Caithness now while they are cheap!

Alan
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Re: Caithness Stardust 97/500
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 11:03:41 PM »
Hi there,

Sorry for belated reply. I have working too much lately.

The reason for the high price of some Caithness weights may be their age (the earlier ones tend to fetch higher prices), and the particular model: the stardust weight is particular popular among collectors and fetch a relatively high price (so does the caithness weight called 'sculpture', for instance).

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