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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2019, 02:37:02 PM »
I agree.... and we have waited 8 years so far....  :-)   
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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2019, 02:41:37 PM »
I amended my post slightly Craig, to include comments about the pontil mark and the base finish.  Did you see those?

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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2019, 02:55:46 PM »
I had not seen the amended comments.  Pontil marks are a bit of an anomaly for me. I find them to kind of run a gamut of styles, even from the same maker. I tend to weigh pontils as a small part of big picture, unless of course it excludes a maker right away.  To me, a flat polished base would be something that would generally rule out Loetz production. Off hand, I can not think of an example of their production with that type of base finish.
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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2019, 03:20:16 PM »
Thanks for the link Greg.
Just in case it disappears (as so many others have on these threads given they've gone on for so long without identification), I hope it's ok if I describe the piece Greg has linked to.

It has been described as a 'Jardiniere' by the seller.  It's a round bucket shaped (i.e slightly wider at the rim than the foot) vase with a height of 10cm and a width of 17cm across the bowl and only 13cm across the foot.
The decor is the same as the OP's on this thread.  It is a very plain piece, straight sided.  No curves, added foot or anything like that.

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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2019, 09:24:57 PM »
Craig, this is an interesting piece.
Looking at it online so very difficult to tell exactly what it looks like in the hand, but online (when you enlarge the photo and look at the detail) it appears very similar to the Loetz Ausfuhrung 109 description:

http://gyujtemeny.imm.hu/gyujtemeny/vaza/8162?ds=eyJtdWxVIjoiMjA5MDcwMWQtNzM5Ny0xMWU3LWE2NGEtZjAxZmFmNmYxYmUzIn0%3D&i=6

A Schreiber vase in the Museum of Budapest collection described as 1900.

and another version here:

http://gyujtemeny.imm.hu/gyujtemeny/vaza/8161?ds=eyJtdWxVIjoiMjA5MDcwMWQtNzM5Ny0xMWU3LWE2NGEtZjAxZmFmNmYxYmUzIn0%3D&i=7

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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2019, 10:10:50 PM »
Just in case it comes in helpful for future reference (although all these links are to pieces seemingly dated much earlier than the amber crackle with green ribbons type pieces) it seem J. Schreiber und Neffen did use both mica and the crackle effect:

Mica example here:

http://sbirky.moravska-galerie.cz/dielo/CZE:MG.U_2204


and crackle examples here:

http://sbirky.moravska-galerie.cz/dielo/CZE:MG.U_2344

and

http://sbirky.moravska-galerie.cz/dielo/CZE:MG.U_2342

and here

http://sbirky.moravska-galerie.cz/dielo/CZE:MG.U_2343



I don't know anything about Schreiber und Neffen so the time frame may not be relevant. Just trying to think around the 'who' might have used these effects. 
The mica blue piece linked to above has a bun foot.

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Re: Any one able to recognise this vase please ??
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2019, 02:26:18 PM »
For what it is worth, the linked examples frovided by Miranda that were suggested by the webiste to be Unknown Loetz, possibly Chalcedon, are now identified as likely being Kralik, both on the linked site, and here:

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/267924-two-vases--w-kralik-sohn-probably?in=activity

Here is a different link to a piece similar to another linked to in this thread also, but now posted in the same forum as the other pair.

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/267876-kralik-pink-footed-bowl-with-yellow-red?in=user

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