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Offline stew2u2

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PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE - ID = Chinese White mini
« on: August 03, 2011, 01:49:24 PM »
Hi
can anyone help with ID of this weight its only 4 cm across slight concave base. not sure how it was made  is there a name for this type of weight.
looks a bit oriental.
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 02:05:58 PM »
Hi
I thought I would get in first even though I do not own a "Chinese White".

I know that some members have quite a few so they can give the details !!!

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 02:19:10 PM »
Thanks roy
another one to add to the knowledge learning everyday thanks to this site.
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 02:32:44 PM »
Hi Stew,

It is indeed a Chinese white. As their name indicate they were made in China for the souvenir/export market.

Although there is some debate at to when they were made, most people date them from the first part of the 20th century (but in all likelihood some were made during the last part of the 19th century and a few after WWII). I personally think that they are great and some are downright gorgeous (yes, you guessed right; I collect them).

They come in three main sizes: miniature (approx. 1 1/2 inches), standard (approx. 2 1/2 inches) and magnum (approx. 4 inches). Both the magum and miniature sizes are less common. You seem you have a miniature.

The designs vary greatly but generally they can be classified into two types: Chinese landscape designs and animals with flowers. You have a design belonging to the second category. The quality of the designs varies also but yours has a good range of colours (if not very crisp).

All in all, a nice little weight. Well done.

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 04:22:27 PM »
thanks sophie
not bad find in a 10p box also found an Erik hoglund pin dish / ashtray in the same box.
so the bargains are still out there
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 04:57:15 PM »
Hi sophie
are they actualy glass like lampwork or discs . i have looked online and some look like paintings inside glass others like mine look like lampwork type pics
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 06:03:11 PM »
Hi Stew,

When making a traditional 'Chinese white', a white glass disc is first painted upon and then the disc/plaque is encased in molten clear glass. There is no lampwork in this type of weight. It borrows from the Chinese tradition of painting on porcelain.

More recently, weights have appeared were the base of a clear weight is painted directly upon, thereby doing away with the need to encase the glass disc.

I hope it helps.

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 06:53:12 PM »
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Hi Stew

I have written articles on / given talks on Chinese Whites both in the UK, Europe and the USA. What SophieB says is quite correct.

There is a brief article I wrote a couple of years ago (which you can download for free) on Chinese Whites on my website Paperweights.co .

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 10:32:42 PM »
Oh, I forgot to say, most of my knowledge comes from Alan (I wondered when you were going to post...)

I have been well taught, I have...

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID PLEASE
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 03:43:11 AM »
Just to add my two cents.  I think the earliest were made in the 1930s as there are a few (rare) examples that have an outer garland millefiori of canes that are the same vintage as the earliest 1930s Chinese weights.  
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