Topic: Etched Glass Bottle - Galleon and Lighthouse

[Ivo]

the alternative which was researched at the time was Portugese provenance - but that was stopped when it was id'd (or was it) in the Swedish forum.

[ju1i3]

The engraving is similar to this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400167096576&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT which is claiming to be 1800!

[goyjus]

Thanks for this Julie. Yes it is similar. In fact, the wavy line design on this piece is featured on the side of my bottle. I wonder if mine is a later copy of the one on ebay?

[ju1i3]

I may be wrong but I don't think the one on ebay is as old as it's being claimed to be (colour is wrong, base is wrong, too many air bubbles - but I'm happy to be corrected if anyone knows more). If I had to put money on it I'd say they are both modern.

[oldglassman]

Hi All ,
  Time for my 2 pence worth , I was hoping that a positive ID may come from those out there with far more experience in this sort of glass , so maybe they are still some answers to be found , in my opinion these glasses are fairly modern and most likely made from recycled glass , I have seen them in all shapes and forms though all carrying the same style of ship and engraving , I nicknamed them 'Blue peter ' glasses many years ago , due to the resemblance of the ships to the logo of that programme , on 1 trip to Gibraltar many years I was shown very similar items being made and very quickly and crudely engraved , these were made from recycled glass,the Item offered on ebay is in my opinion one of these , I saw the eBay item during my last visit to  Amsterdam  and comments were made !!!. I never did manage to find out the whole range of items they produced , it seems as if they have been making these things there for many years , all have the 1 thing in common though , the naff!! engraving of ships. although the engraving in the origional post does seem to be of a better quality than those I have seen before , mostly the ships look like the one on ebay.so maybe another answer is still needed for this 1
cheers ,
            Peter.

[Frank]

From memory, similar appear in Hill Ouston catalogues during the 30s, these usually indicate if UK or foreign made. Once I can get to the catalogues will look for a match.

[goyjus]

Cheers for that Frank. Much appreciated.

Here is the response I got from a leading Swedish auction house:

'This bottle is made in Scandinavia in the mid 19 th century. They can't be attributed to any specific glasswork to most of them do similar bottles and sometimes other small shops engraved them.'

So something else to throw into the mix!

[Ohio]

There is a green bubbly glass vase that strongly resembles your bottle in glass quality that arrived last week with the same exact ship decoration in the mall I'm in with a Made In Portugal green & silver label.

[goyjus]

Well. It could be the same one. I think Ivo mentioned something about Portuguese origin earlier on this thread...

[Ekimp]

I’ve come across a few examples of these and am reviving this post as there is another clue on eBay at the moment here:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Venetian-Green-Bubble-Glass-Roemer-Tourist-Gondola-Race-Trophy-c1960/312514846054
The one on eBay is Roemer type glass in the same style, the seller says that they are mid century Venetian, ‘used as prizes in gondola races for tourists and as tourist gift ware’. I suppose they may have been imported from Portugal but the story sounded reasonable, maybe it’ll ring a bell if anyone did a grand tour at the time.