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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 05:46:01 PM »
For a better comparison, here's a compilation shot from Mary's original of all three on a table. The Amber bowl was to the rear of the other two so there will be some element of apparent size difference. But for shapes, it should be ok.
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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 08:32:29 PM »
I don't think the foot difference matters that much. But the Yellow really is so fundamentally a different shape that I guess it is probably non-standard. All the variants in the catalogue that differ a lot were labelled examples, so I guess we just have to wait for a labelled match to the yellow and until then assume it is a special or even a one off. There are a few designs that did see radical change in form between pre and post war. I guess Paul just refined his taste. Particularly RA http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page02vary.htm

e.g. http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page04vary.htm
RC has substantial foot and proportion variations even pre-war and WC varies from almost hideous to the one (in centre) that I still consider to be the most aesthetically perfect piece of Monart I ever owned or saw.

BB variants are wide http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page03vary.htm

More variants

http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page06vary.htm

http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page08vary.htm

http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page09vary.htm

More on the site, variants are linked from each catalogue page. All of the first page are now only on Scotlands Glass with multiple examples viewable together on each detail page.

http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=260&Itemid=6


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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2011, 01:37:44 PM »

Hello Mary,

How is the base of the green and white lattice bowl finished?

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 02:25:24 PM »
Hi Nigel

Here are 3 pictures of the feet of each of the bowls.   The pink  bowl is splayed out, whereas both the green/white (which has a clear foot) and the amber are what I call stubby.   Have a look and see what you think.

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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 02:53:49 PM »
Well noticed Nigel, I guess you are going to say the green one is Nazeing or...
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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2011, 03:14:04 PM »
Frank,

I don't think it's Nazeing, the foot is exactly the same as the amber bowl.  The shape of the bowl is exactly the same as the BI pink striped.    Everything about the green cobweb bowl screams Monart to me down to the colour.   I also have another footed vase with the same shape foot. 
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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2011, 09:44:59 PM »
Thanks Frank.........but take a look here http://www.20thcentury-glass.org.uk/id62.html. You'll probably notice something in the first photo.

Sorry Mary, but everything about it screams Nazeing, the way the colour is laid in the finish to the pontil, etc., etc.

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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2011, 10:08:21 PM »
Mary I agree with Nigel and had only been looking at shapes although I had been startled by the green/white and just did not think about that until Nigel made his remark. The close-up of the foot was completely not Ysart. I know that they did occasionally leave the foot undusted but a Monart foot never had that look. On the plus side one of the better pieces of Nazeing.
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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2011, 06:57:43 AM »
That's a wrap then, isn't it.   So it begs the question now being Nazeing, is 1930's Nazeing worth anything?   I shall keep it as I think it's very attractive.     

As for the amber bowl, let's hope someone comes along with a label otherwise we will never know if it is a special or whether new shapes were made and not included in the pattern book.  Intriguing thought!!

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Re: Monart Glass Bowl shapes BI; PH; and NI question probably for Frank
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2011, 10:19:45 AM »
As it is such a good one it would probably fetch a similar price to a Monart one, maybe a bit less...
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