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Author Topic: Alabaster powder bowl ? Italian ?  (Read 1634 times)

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Alabaster powder bowl ? Italian ?
« on: September 11, 2011, 05:17:04 PM »
My hunch is that this was not made by Stevens and Williams.

Flat polished base, 12 centimeters tall.

Any ideas?

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 06:45:58 PM »
I would say most likely Italian myself..... especially with the flat polished underside....

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 07:46:03 PM »
I once posted, and then relisted recently, an 'urn' shaped piece in what I thought might have been S. & W. 'Jade'    It had handles in this watery white colour - and like yours also had a flat base.     There was a bit of a deafening silence in terms of replies, so in the end I became no wiser really.     However, in recent weeks I did in fact find what Nigel Benson confirmed as a piece of genuine S.& W. Alabaster, albeit the bottom half only  -  and this has a rather large ground/polished pontil mark, as shown in the attached pic.     So maybe flat bottomed examples are not from the U.K.         Frederick Carder apparently did something similar to 'Rose', and so did Richardsons, I believe, oftern copying S.& W. patterns. :)

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 01:18:31 AM »
The Steuben examples by Carder were in "Rosaline", and invariably had a polished pontil mark and not flat bottoms. I do not know about Richardson bottoms, although my suspicion is that they also bear a dished and polished pontil mark....  It is the detail of the flat bottom on the piece which points me towards Italy for the origins.....

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 04:52:05 AM »
West Germany also made a lot of pink alabastro pieces. The thinness of the glass made me think of Germany when I saw the jar. I don't know, so it is just an idea of a direction to look.
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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 08:03:09 AM »
Thanks Craig, Paul and Anita, there were too many features pushing me away from S & W, thinnish walls, flat base and slightly crude knob (no puns please). ::)

As with most successful products it seems that every man and his dog made their own version... It is slightly more substantial than a few I have handled, a European maker seems reasonable and I will be keeping my eyes open for more clues.

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 12:39:02 PM »
Are German product known to have flat bases such as this? 

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 04:08:58 PM »
No idea Craig, too far outside my comfort zone with this.

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 06:22:36 AM »
I side with Craig - not just the flat bottom, but also the lid shape and he use of colour point at Italy - possibly Vincente Nason.

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Re: Alabaster powder bowl
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2011, 07:57:30 AM »
Interesting, thanks Ivo.

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