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Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« on: October 01, 2011, 12:35:39 PM »
Dear Murano experts,

bought this beautiful lobed bowl/ashtray today, diameter appr. 16 cm, brown cased in green (maybe clear glass as well, difficult to see).
The green may have Uranium content, but I cannot check before monday...

Underside with several circular indentations, base heavily worn.
Outside and inside with irregular acid-etched finish -- referred to as "Corroso" I guess.

Any ideas of age/maker? (This time I am very positive that this is a Murano piece ;D. If not -- my apologies to the mods)
I have seen some Seguso pieces with similar finish and colours on the net, but I guess this technique was used by several makers...

Thanks!
Michael


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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 11:22:53 AM »
????

I have never seen a finish like that on Murano glass in my Internet travels -- so I await to hear replies on it too.   It is Neat!!  :thup:
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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 12:05:01 PM »
Thanks a lot for your answer, Rose!!

Like you, I knew this technique only from pictures so far (for instance a great Flavio Poli "Corroso" vase depicted in Lesley Jackson's book), so I had to get this nice piece :)

Here are several links to Murano pieces I found on the web, with similar or almost identical finish:
http://www.treadwaygallery.com/lotInfo.php?i=11584
http://www.moltabellaglass.com/items/721697/en1store.html
http://www.von-zezschwitz.de/detail.php?onlinecatalog=1&chapter=4&objectid=29659&ref=%252Fonlinecatalog.php%253Fid%253D57%2526chapter%253D4%2526view%253Dgallery%2526language%253Ddeutsch&id=57&language=deutsch
http://www.antiquehelper.com/item/289266
http://www.antiquehelper.com/item/311131
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=5348686

It would be great if some of the Murano specialists could shed a light on this one!
Thanks,
Michael


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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 09:49:35 AM »
Ok, one more thing to add: tested it under UV, and it glows green like crazy! (My very first piece of Uranium glass :))

So, any chance that at least my Murano attribution (and the Corroso technique) could be confirmed? Maker or date is a different matter I guess...

Thanks!
Michael


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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 12:24:09 PM »
Ok, one more thing to add: tested it under UV, and it glows green like crazy! (My very first piece of Uranium glass :))

So, any chance that at least my Murano attribution (and the Corroso technique) could be confirmed? Maker or date is a different matter I guess...

Thanks!
Michael

here is another ONE with texture    and yours also Glows, now I am  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Good for you  :thup: and your first piece of Uranium Glass too  :chky:
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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 02:36:00 PM »
My first thoughts when I saw the bowl was perhaps it was Seguso or Archimede Seguso. The bowl reminded me of some of their work. Wish i could say something more definite about it.
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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 04:52:14 PM »
Thanks a lot Rose and Anita!

After doing quite a bit of internet research during the last days, it seems that "Corroso" pieces are much less common than items in other Murano techniques (and most are attributed to the major companies).
From what I have read, the use of the acids was strictly limited from the 1960s on due to anti-pollution regulation (don't know if this is true); I guess this would indicate my bowl was probably made before that date?

Michael


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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 06:56:03 PM »
Interesting piece.  It's different from most (all?) corroso pieces that I've seen in that it's not a simple shape. As you point out, it has lobes, not unusual in Murano, but I've not seen in corroso.  I have three piece of corroso, as you point out in another thread. One is Seguso Vetri d'Arte (it has a label and it's typical of what SVd'A exported to North America). The other two I'm much less sure about about. The little bowl I was pretty sure was Murano when I bought it. However, when I later bought the vase in the same colours, I became less sure, as the finish on the vase isn't what I'd expect of Murano, especially around the mouth. I did some digging and it seems that companies outside Italy had made corroso since Murano stopped making it. So corroso can be non-Murano and post 1950's.

Having said that your piece looks very much like Murano to me with it's shape and colours. If Murano it's 1950's or earlier.  I couldn't suggest a maker, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it were SVd'A. I also wonder if Archimede Seguso did corroso.

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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 09:40:08 AM »
David, thanks a lot for looking into this!
The bowl is by far my most interesting Murano item, so I am curious to learn more about it.

I have read a thread on the fossilfly forums where a Corroso piece was finally identified as French 1930s (I think you contributed there as well :)), so I am aware that there are other possibilities than Murano -- but this one just screams "Murano!" to me :D
Your green/blue Corroso vase is great, where ever it may have been made.

I did quite a lot of internet research on Corroso and Murano, and you are right that most pieces have a rather restraint shape.
After looking at hundreds of bowls and ashtrays I couldn't find anything similar to mine (not even shape-wise -- closest are some deeply lobed Barbini bowls). But none has the deep bumps to the underside.
And that I have seen Corroso pieces by all of the big companies doesn't help in attribution either...

Thanks again,
Michael


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Re: Brown/green lobed bowl with acid-etched (Corroso?) finish
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 10:00:03 AM »
I'm not sure if this will help at all or lead anywhere, but I'm pretty sure I've seen a similar shaped bowl by Galliano Ferro, with uranium casing and large dimples, but without the Corroso finish.

 

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