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Offline chriscooper

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Orrefors signature?
« on: October 05, 2011, 01:11:41 PM »
Hi can someone confirm this is in fact an Orrefors signature.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G7heoePxjVw/TmucaTLBWqI/AAAAAAAAR5k/_AVAN3pJeE4/s912/SDC15813.JPG

This is the vase....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DD4p1H9FHxs/TmvbW-6EgwI/AAAAAAAAR7U/ZSAsx7OmbrY/s512/SDC15801.JPG

More photos here...

https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/OrreforsVase#5650851345356587778

Research of the signature brought up 1956 Sven Palmqvist but this was disputed when I listed it last week even went on to dispute it was in fact Orrefors at all?
So a little expert help required, thought I was doing so well on my own too  :-[

Thanks Chris


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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 02:25:10 PM »
I can see why it might be questioned, it does not say "Orrefors" and it does not quite look like "Of" either which you sometimes find. I wonder if it is a blank engraved by a 'freelance' engraver?

John


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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 03:33:58 PM »
Interesting John, I thought the of was okay the P for Palmqvist just got a bit lost with the  date codes on a couple of sites, plus there are also codes for the type of glass, depending on which sets of numbers are the date codes I came up with 1940s or 1950s and a throbbing headache.
Looking at the details of the person who emailed 5 minutes before the auction ended to tell me it wasn't and said I would like to make an offer of £15 to be honest from what they were buying and selling nothing led me to believe they knew much more than I did about it.

Chris


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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 04:20:29 PM »
This one:-   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orrefors-Swedish-Art-Glass-Vase-Engraved-Girl-w-Flower-/110744213011
Is so like yours it would be difficult to believe that yours was not Orrefors Chris....IMHO.
Rosie.

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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 05:15:52 PM »
Just thinking out loud Chris. Orrefors numbering is notoriously difficult to decipher...

I would have been a little suspicious of an email like that too.

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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 06:48:47 PM »
So to digress this is what I come up with so far...
of =Orrefors  P = Sven Palmqvist   2686 = the model number   B83 = the year made and the 2 letters g R ? = the engraver
I think  :o


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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 08:22:50 PM »
How about: Of  P  2686  B8  XXX  ?

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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 08:40:46 PM »
B8 = 1951 what's XXX ?


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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 12:17:00 AM »
I suspect XXX refers to the initials of the engraver.  Perhaps though it refers to the particular way it is engraved.  We need Daniel S to give you a real expert opinion.

Ross
I bamle all snileplg eorrrs on the Cpomuter Kyes.  They confuse my fingers !!!

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Re: Orrefors signature?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 08:17:22 AM »
Yes indeed, I used XXX to refer to the remaining digits which I can't make out in your photos.

John

 

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