No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please ID = Gray-Stan  (Read 4036 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline a-mighty-wind

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Gender: Male
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 11:46:00 PM »
What would the original sig have been etched with?

Offline Frank

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 9508
  • Gender: Male
    • Glass history
    • Europe
    • Gateway
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 12:04:52 AM »
Acid

Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6545
    • England
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 12:40:20 AM »
For info, there are two pics below of the signature (which is approx 3/4 inch / 19mm in width ) on my vase. One pic is from about 10 inch distance and the other is ultra close up.

Note that this signature does not have the hyphen, but with a date of 1928 this ties in quite well with information in Roger Dodsworth's article on Gray-Stan in British Glass Between The Wars.

I hope my example is genuine. :wsh:
KevinH

Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6545
    • England
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 12:44:55 AM »
Frank, when you say etched with acid, are you just referring to the "block caps" version? Surely the hand formed sigs were done with a tool of some type, thus accounting for variations on the theme.
KevinH

Offline a-mighty-wind

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Gender: Male
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 01:28:22 AM »
I agree with Kevin, the hand formed sigs have to use an engraving tool of some sort.....right?

Offline nigel benson

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 1128
  • Gender: Male
  • British glass 1870-1980
    • British glass 1870-1980
    • http://www.20thcentury-glass.org.uk
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 11:22:50 PM »
Hello,

I can understand Frank's reservations, but I have to say whether the mark is right, or wrong, this IS a piece of Gray-Stan in a known and recorded shape. See Parkington Part I, 16 October 1997 lot 373 for a yellow and orange example.

As for the signature, they vary greatly, but can generally be split into two versions, both being produced by use of an engraving tool (wheel? or diamond?). One is small and neat, the other larger and looser in interpretation. Naturally, they vary individually.

Nigel

Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12677
    • UK
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2011, 10:25:41 AM »
 :mrgreen:
Wonderful!!  I am jealous and very pleased for you.
m

Offline Frank

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 9508
  • Gender: Male
    • Glass history
    • Europe
    • Gateway
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 01:02:35 PM »
That's good Nigel, glad you dropped by. It was the stuttering in the tail that suggested Dremel as signing using a diamond point or other tool in a practised hand does not result in such a stutter!

Offline a-mighty-wind

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Gender: Male
Re: Interesting Charles Schneider Style piece ID Help Please
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 11:15:56 PM »
Thanks Nigel!!! Maybe the signer was just having on off day.  Now the question is keep or sell? not something I really collect

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand