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Offline SophieB

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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 09:28:27 AM »
Hi,

IMHO, it is neither neither fruit nor Sandwich... But as you say, a Chinese pansy. It is nice and early though (and not that common). I would not mind owning it.

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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:41:52 AM »
Hi Sophie. I wasn't going to bid on it and I didn't in the end, but the more I looked at it - the more it grew on me. Definately the best Chinese of the era that I have seen. It sold for $255 in the end. Funnily enough the same pansy came up again but in a vertical form:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290624433879?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Not as attractive IMHO, sold for $103
Anyone know if the vertical form is rare?  RGds


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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 01:43:31 AM »
Extremely rare.  I know of only a few examples.  Worth $400 - $600 US.  Too bad I didn't see it.
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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 01:49:51 AM »
Dang, I almost bid on it


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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 10:20:43 AM »
Hi all,

The top facetting looks a bit odd to me. However, I had never seen one before, so I wonder: are these vertical pansy weights facetted like this or was this weight unusual (due to some repair perhaps or a flight of fancy of the maker...)?

Sophie


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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 11:16:57 AM »
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Hi Sophie

My Chinese pansy - shown below - is facetted in a similar but not identical way (as was one I sold a few years ago).

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(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/rosismum/th_Chipan.jpg)
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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 01:34:24 PM »
Hi Alan,

Your weight looks 'normal' to me. However, if you look at the facetting on the top of the vertical pansy weight (which would be on the side for your weight), there is some odd facetting (two little facets with a divide). It may have been for decoration... Not sure about the esthetic of it, though...

Anyway, I was only curious.

Sophie


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Re: Hmmm... looks like a Chinese Pansy to me
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 02:46:35 PM »
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Hi Sophie

The usual way to construct these 'vertical' paperweights it to make a conventional paperweight, then attach it on one side to a different pontil, knock off the first rod, then add glass which is turned into the foot. When the finished 'vertical' weight is knocked off the pontil, there is a pontil mark on the very top of the weight.  Sometimes it is polished off, sometimes it remains - you can see it on some Ysart pedestal weight, and on some Belgian ones. If this Chinese one had a single facet on top, I would suggest it was just there to hide the pontil mark: but two together is odd, unless the pontil mark was that shape!

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