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Author Topic: Caithness C11G confirmation please  (Read 2627 times)

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Offline stew2u2

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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 01:05:52 PM »
i thought that if they did not match the original design that they were called CII2. nothing wrong with them just fussy designers  ;D
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 02:26:37 PM »
I have never seen or heard of any weight marked CII2 I thought all seconds were marked CIIG but maybe someone else can comment better on this
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 03:23:55 PM »
Some are scratched C2G, otherwise its CIIG.

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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 10:22:33 PM »
Some are scratched C2G, otherwise its CIIG.
thats what i meant a bit of a typo there
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 12:23:59 AM »
...Similalrly Whitefriars sold seconds in their factory shop marked with an S scratched on the base and many of these had no faults but I believe they were perfect and used to stock the shop.
Dave

Which would seem to confirm a sensible business practise.
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2011, 10:49:55 PM »
and dont forget , even prototypes " as non standard production " were marked as seconds
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2011, 11:37:11 PM »
It has been drawn to my attention that it was not an uncommon glassworks practise to produce more than required for a limited edition. This allowing for seconds and breakage to ensure that the full edition quota could be produced. But bear in mind not all limited editions were necessarily produced to the full quantity - amply illustrated by Charlton which often shows actual numbers made were below the full edition for Caithness.

In general the trade prices was 50% and seconds could be sold above that price in the factory shop.

So I guess it is fair to say that a considerable number of seconds were simply surplus to the edition but perfect. So if you are puzzled as to why your second looks so good, you know that it probably is a perfect piece.

Once word spreads, will we get listings on eBay differentiating between perfect seconds and second seconds  ;) will that result in a 3 tier market? Well with the wide range of prices achieved for any single item I guess it would make little difference other than perhaps drawing attention to the really flawed items - which would themselves be an interesting study area as they give an indication of the quality control and skills to hand.
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Re: Caithness C11G confirmation please
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2011, 04:29:48 PM »
  Thanks very much for the inside knowledge those who can do so. I have never worked in or near a glass factory so have to pick up info from others about the business of making and running them. Regards Roger.

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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2011, 05:05:09 PM »
Like any business, surviving is the challenge.
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