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Red marbled vase with enamel, Loetz Marmoriertes Carneol? or Harrach? other?
flying free:
I've searched extensively on this. I can match the decor and the shape of the foot and the body to a Loetz Marmoriertes vase, but not the neck of the vase - the nearest I can find has a slight bulge in the neck near the body. I also can't match the enamel decoration, all those I've found have a different type of decoration. I am pretty sure the enamel on this one is supposed to be white with an ochre matt goldy outline - i.e. I don't think think any gilt has worn off it. Hard to show but in between each of the horizontal panels just under the rim there are lots of gilded dots or rather gilded dashes. There is a gilt band just under and around the rim worn with age and a gilt band around the foot.
Mould blown there is no pontil mark on the base but there is a mark which I cannot read and that looks to have been enamelled on. The base photo makes the swirls look darker than they are as I was trying to highlight the mark. The rim is cut and polished bevelled on both side and then gilded (worn). The interior is white. Not uranium glass either inside or out.
There looks to have been another small mark below this as well.
I was wondering if this isn't Loetz Carneol perhaps it may be Harrach?
Measures 20cm (7 14/16") tall by 9cm widest just over 3 1/2").
any thoughts? and thanks :sun:
m
Mike M:
Hi
I think you are on the right track
It's Loetz or Harrach but it is very hard to tell difference - with no pontil mark and a cold cut top I'd definitely lean towards Loetz
cheers
Mike
flying free:
Thank you Mike. :sun:
m
johnphilip:
I believe Loetz also!!! and have just looked in Collectable Bohemian glass by Robert and Deborah truit there are several very similar pieces on pages 86 and 87 as Loetz . Mike is well up in this field . jp - ps It also says by 1890 the glass had a pink or white lining
flying free:
Thanks JP :sun: I managed to find a picture of page 87 where there are vases that, as you say, are remarkably similar in shape. I'm pretty sure it is Loetz, so I'll keep an eye out for a match on the enamel variation as it is different to those I've seen. I'm also curious as to the enamel mark on the base.. I wonder if it is the decorators mark? As I remember the Carneol version is dated to 1880 so your comment about the reference to the interior being white by 1890. I recall seeing one that did not have this interior and there was a questioning as to whether it was Loetz marmoriertes. Perhaps the reference to the interior means that prior to this they were made without the white or pink and just clear.
thanks again for taking the time to look for me.
m
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