I'm no further forward on matching the shape of my vase to either Harrach or Loetz so far, but further to some discussion comments earlier in the thread:
‘… I've seen very few pieces of Loetz that had any type of numbers at all on the base, but the few examples I've seen tended to be Roman numerals on Victorian era Loetz glass.
‘ on page 4 of this thread
And‘Loetz never marked vases like this. Loetz designations had roman numerals and then a number. Sometimes their earlier pieces just had four numbers in gold
. ‘ on page 5 of this thread
For future reference, I just wanted to add some links to a Loetz Octopus vase that is on sale at the moment.
There is a very clear picture of the base and on the base:
- It is marked in whitish enamel rather than gilding.
- It is marked 'Patent 9159' with the word 'Patent' written in script and sitting a line above the numbers inside a polished pontil mark.
I'm assuming since it is a patent mark that the mark belongs to Loetz and refers to the decor and/or shape rather than the enamelling on the vase, which, in this case, actually only has gilded decoration on the background of the vase as far as I can see, and no white enamelling on it.http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wonderful-Loetz-Octopus-Vase-in-Great-Condition-1885-88-/300869309786
Unfortunately the link will disappear in time but hopefully this will remain as a reference.
I'll keep searching for a shape match