Topic: Pamela? Glen? Anyone know about this Dresser Set?

[Anne]

Anne
Your clear candlestick holder seems to have another 'ornament' right under the cup? If not, and if strictly like Martin's,  it should be WALTHER Prismen ...

... Prismen is the German plural of PRISMA ...

... I am still not sure, whether Martin's tray is really Walther Prismen, but the candle and box are, IMHO

Pamela, thank you. Mine doesn't have anything extra below the cup - it looks the same to me as the one you gave as Martin's. My picture isn't very clear - I'll try and get a better one - I think it's the angle that makes it look a little odd. These are the second candlesticks which I ever came by from my collection and I've always loved them.

Thanks also for the info about Prisma / Prismen. I just wish I could get the hang of the German language- it defeats me totally.

[pamela]

Please Anne don't cry!
I do ask here, whenever I do not understand - do not hesitate to always ask Patricia, Della, Frank, Ivo, me...

[AlmasAttic]

at last.... here are those pics of the jar that you requested Pamela...

hopefully this may give a clue as to the maker of the set

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/almasattic/GrnPnldCrvsLg1.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/almasattic/GrnPnldCrvsLg2.jpg)

[Anne]

My pot isn't the same now I can yours more clearly Cheri. Yours has incisions where mine has peaks between the panels.

[pamela]

fantastic photos, Cheri, thank you!
But I am very sorry, I can neither identify yours nor Anne's  :twisted:

the matt finish of your set, Cheri, tells me it is probably not of German Art Déco production  :?

[AlmasAttic]

fantastic photos, Cheri, thank you!
But I am very sorry, I can neither identify yours nor Anne's  :twisted:

the matt finish of your set, Cheri, tells me it is probably not of German Art Déco production  :?

thanks Pamela tho I am puzzled re your comment on the satin finish...I have had Walther Nymphen green items in with this same finish, and the Mary candlesticks have this satinized finish too :?:

[pamela]

Cheri, I shall have to ask Mr. Mauerhoff when we all meet here Whitsun.
Fact is that all Walther glass I have been able to buy from UK or elsewhere is matt finished and should be 50/60ies production. Only Walther glass bought locally (and it is very few  :cry:  ) is shiny or at least partly shiny
Best proof for this is my Schmetterling vase in pink and green:
pink : probably pre-WWII
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/00851.html
green: most certainly after WWII
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/00851.html

And the 'worst' Walther items are these Fische-bowls: obviously clear glass finished matt pink colour applied:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/00651.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/00642.html

Especially the Möven-centrepiece makes it obvious that it's quite a different quality of glass and colour

But, after all, I do hope the experts like Mr. Mauerhoff will join us in June and give more details on production of pre and after war  :shock:

[Leni]

Pamela, you accidentally posted the pink Schmetterling twice, and not the green one!   :shock:

Please can you say how you can tell whether it's pre or post WWII?  And do you think my amber Schmetterling is pre or post war?   :shock:  :? http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1242

[pamela]

Leni, I think both my green and pink one are visible there? If not please inform - could it be my local website then that I see them both in one place?
pre or post war: I can only ask for your patience until Mr. Mauerhoff gave more details on production at that time - it is just my interpreting my glasses so far (always  :twisted: )

[Glen]

Pamela - could it just be that more matte ones were exported and more glossy (shiny) ones were not?

Glen