Topic: ZBS Miloslav Klinger ashtray c.1965

[Anik R]

I think I might have been propagating a misconception.  The 1983/2 CGR attributes these pieces (with the side hole and double hole) to Josef Cvrcek.  Jindrich, in his Ceskoslovenske Sklo DVD, also attributes the design (or a similar design) to Cvrcek. 

BUT THEN in the 1984/3 CGR, items attributed to Cvrcek just a year earlier are attributed to Klinger.  From the editions Jindrich has available, I do not believe these pieces appear in any later CGRs.

 :ho:  Mistakes are present in later CGRs.  Which attribution is correct?


P.S. Ross, the seller had 3 more citrin and virginit pieces. The 'famous' flat vase with 2 holes, a plainer vase, and a basket.  I was offered all 4 pieces for 100 PLN.  Unfortunately, the other two vases had multiple surface scratches on them, so I passed. I'm sure there are Kralik and Loetz items at my market, but I just haven't noticed.  I go through the market like thunder, only looking for post-war Czech items. My husband went with me for the first time yesterday -- he never knew I could move so fast and was shocked that I was ready to return home after 20 minutes.  :usd:   I'm very efficient.

[Anik R]

Mistakes are present in my posts too...  Klinger's first name was Miroslav and not Miloslav.   :pb:

[Anik R]

I'm such a twit...  :spls:    It is Miloslav, with an l, not an r.  

Now if someone would kindly point me in the direction I left my brain, many would be highly appreciative.

[rocco]

No Skrdlovice today for me here on the Viennese fleamarket at minus 12°C
But I found this nice ZBS Neodymium ashtray, the version Robert mentioned with the extra compartment for matches or cigarettes...

I guess we still are not sure about the designer of these?

Michael

[Anik R]

Though neither of our ashtrays are on Jindrich's "Ceskoslovenske Sklo" DVD, he has got the similar-styled vase and a pipe-holder (or maybe it's an ashtray?) attributed to Josef Cvrcek. 

So I still don't quite know.

[Anik R]

I'm terribly sorry... I just realised my above post is a repetition of what I've said earlier.   :pb:

[rocco]

No problem, Anik -- thanks for your reply!

In Lesley Jackson's book is a picture of my piece in Citrin colour, but without mentioning a designer, unfortunately...

Michael

[Anik R]

Michael, I've just found your ashtray (in a different colourway) in the 1988/8 CGR.  It's attributed to Miloslav Klinger, and it's pattern number 7180.