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Offline Otis Orlando

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Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« on: January 18, 2012, 02:19:31 AM »
Hi, Anyone able to identify this paperweight?  4.6 Dia.,  3.8cm height. Polished pontil, concaved and measures 2.8 Dia.  Only the rim (0.1cm)  of the pontil sits flush on a flat surface and shows signs of wear and unpolished.  I have a collection of milliflori paperweights, however, not seen one like this before.  Within the paperweight there are approx. around 8 small air pockets, which sit closely on top of the milliflori with a few below.   Any ideas would be appreciated.  Thank you
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 02:22:45 AM »
Hi Otis,

We really do need a picture or two. "Bubbles & millefiori" could apply to many different countries, designs and periods.
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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 02:36:25 AM »
Hi KevinH,  Thanks for that.  I Just realised that the pictures required minimizing prior to download.  Each time I attempted to submit pics.  I would get  'Timed Out'.  :ooh:
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 05:53:55 AM »
St. Mande would be my attribution. 
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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 01:48:14 PM »
An article coming out in the 2012 PCA Bulletin would also point to Grenelle.


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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 05:06:14 AM »
Looking forward to the article. 
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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 12:30:47 AM »
Hi, Comments appreciated!    looked on the site provided (Allan's paperweight for sale) and managed to obtain some very interesting information, especially paying  attention to ref. 1531.  I had no idea that signature letter marks can be found within the canes.  I have attached extra close up pictures as best as I can in order to identify if the signature StM exist.  I am aware that not all of the paperweights were signed.  I was able to pick out the letter S and t, but not able to find the Letter M on the lowest cane in the initial pics posted.  Is this where I should be looking?   
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 05:07:29 AM »
Hi Otis,

I've never seen an StM signature on that type of paperweight.  Alpha is the expert in this area.  If he believes this to be Grenelle, than I would defer to him.  The Annual PCA Bulletins published each year by the (US based) Paperweight Collectors Association and also the newsletters published by the (UK based)  Paperweight Collectors Circle are full of great reference information. 
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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 02:07:42 PM »
The letters that seem to be there are cane distortions and not recognized signature canes. Each of the two varieties of the StM cane is very distinct and identifiable.

The upcoming article is by Philippe Frere who a very reliable and a recognized expert on antique French paperweights. It is very interesting reading. (As an editor I get an advance preview of sorts.)

I would echo what Allan said. The PCA Bulletins are invaluable reference books and are collectilbe in their own right. In fact the print totals for many years are so low that it can take many many years to put together a complete set. And the PCC Newletters are like mini bulletins each quarter and fullo of great research articles unlik other clubs newsletter that are more chit-chatty - and as a member of the PCC you can get online to the past newsletter archives and download  PDF's of the old newsletters.


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Re: Small Crystal Milleflori Paperweight
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 03:33:08 PM »
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Hi Otis

Here is a link to the PCC website.


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