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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 11:09:22 AM »
However they were made they are lovely and the first bit of modern Whitefriars that I would be covet.

John


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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 11:10:30 AM »
I have just spoken with Ray he confirmed Baxter designed them Ray actually made them and can only remember making two or three in ruby . So from the horses mouth .


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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 11:14:38 AM »
John, I coveted first:P
Yup, this and a Peter Wheeler Peacock are the only bits of wfs I require.
(though I do need some nice Powell blue straw opal)
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 11:17:51 AM »
The Whitefriars catalogues are not brilliant especially the later ones. They were struggling at this time and I don't think they had the money to spend.

I have added a picture below showing a number of the later studio designs for future reference.

The later stuff is so under appreciated, everybody wants the textured stuff. I think these are some of the best.

James


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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 11:26:49 AM »
Is the one on the far left a Peacock?
I keep reading that it was made using kingfisher blue - this, if it is peacock, is the only one I've seen which doesn't have a decidedly-green-and-absolutely-not-kingfisher bottom part.

So is the conclusion that Andy's piece is the Baxter experimental range of the '70s or some studio range, or some experimental thing otherwise not defined in Lesley Jackson?
What was the doubt in the first place?
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 11:40:18 AM »
Yes, one on the left is a Peter Wheeler Peacock vase.

Conclusion for Andy's vase is:

Pattern No: 9882 from the 1978 New Studio Range (Ruby with Kingfisher overlay)

Rare vase but not experimental


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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 12:01:03 PM »
Thanks again .
How nice that Ray Annenberg actually made it ! As i had the pleasure of meeting him and Patrick at a local auction,
and took them home for a coffee while waiting to settle up with their purchases. A rare Elephant and other
animals i think it was.

Fascinating stuff  :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp:

Andy
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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2012, 12:11:16 PM »
James that is a fantastic display!  I now covet some Whitefriars as well  :mrgreen:
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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2012, 12:34:13 PM »
Can Ray confirm or refute the notion that kingfisher strapping was used to introduce the silver chloride, or if it was sliver chloride on its own used on the surface of the ruby, or if it was intruduced vis another colour of glass strapping?

I really am completely unconvinced there is any kingfisher in it. No matter what the catalogues state.

Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Whitefriars Baxter Experimental Studio Vase c1978 , just showing off!
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2012, 01:17:43 PM »
Just a thought , JP , if you do talk to Ray again, ask him if he knows Colin Grinham.
Hes the name on this link, who said he bought it when he worked at WF in the 70s, and was told there were only 2 made,
and they were experimental, and never went into production,

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/a3-messages/a3a-msg-2001/messages.htm
I found the old link whilst googling, from 2001.

Ray might be interested.
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Andy
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