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Offline RAY

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ysart or very late strathearn dump
« on: February 26, 2012, 07:23:02 PM »
spotted this one on ebay,  it measures just under 4.5" high with a sort of flat top as seen in some of Salvador Ysart dump weights, the base has been fire polished, the cane has a complex daisy cane in the centre

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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 09:29:23 PM »
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Hi Ray.

If it had appeared in a mixed box of weights, I would have said it was Murano. But I am not sure I am correct.

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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 11:02:24 PM »
Hmmm. I can see why Ray is thinking maybe Strathearn.

Might be right but I have never seen another like it. Murano? I can't say it isn't, but top me the complex cane looks more like 1970s Scottish than Murano.
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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 08:52:25 AM »
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The canes reminded me somewhat of the paperweight shown below, which after wide consultation (including on GMB, I think), was considered to be Murano rather than Scottish - but that attribution may be incorrect.

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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 12:27:38 PM »
Ah! The "purple" elements seem to tie together quite well. Pity there's no clear match with a particular cane form.

I have now also seen something I overlooked - the cane in Ray's weight is made with 10 alternating outer elements (i.e. 5 and 5); but Scottish ones of that type are usually 8 alternating (4 and 4).

I change my view to ... don't know.
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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 04:21:19 PM »
thats why i was thinking it could be a late strathearn Kev as the later years they did 5 and 5
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Re: ysart or very late strathearn dump
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 01:10:00 PM »
took this weight to show Dave Moir, he says it's a Herbert Dreier  piece, and told me how they made it, the twist piece thats left on the punty iron after the cane pull is used to pick up the single cane on the floor and then coated with glass and made in to shape, then the weight is cracked off and then base is fire polished, made late 79-80
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