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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2014, 06:37:07 PM »
No I haven't and would love you to add them.
Can you upload to your computer and add them from there please?
Thanks for taking the time to do this and make a journey to the museum. 
I'm aiming to go up in a few weeks time but will have a 7 hour journey for 3 hours at the museum if I'm lucky.  I wont make it to the cone I don't think, unless I don't hang around and am very organised at the museum.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2014, 06:37:58 PM »
Ok second try.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2014, 06:39:03 PM »
Thank you SO much! I really appreciate it  :)
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2014, 06:44:10 PM »
Well the cone was in a poor shape leaking like a sieve, there is a small display cabinet with about ten Stuart bit's in behind the reception desk, most of the rest of the displays are glass from artists who work or display there. i'm going to have a look in the Webb Corbett one on Monday see what that's like, regards Chris.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2014, 06:47:36 PM »
Nobody else is making any comment.

Of course I recognise that lots of makers made these peacock eye style (whatever form the eye and trail take) vases.  But personally I think it is 'spooky' how similar the vases on the shelf in the Passau, identified in the link below as Schliersee, are to the Stuart patterns in terms of both shape and decor.
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/78171-german-jugendstil-schliersee-steigerwa

I am working my way through the 1907 Harrods catalogue pages, as well as the 1909 ones I have, and all  my books and will post what I find as I think there are so many similarities between the vases in the Passau and Stuart.

Likewise there are two other vases, one sold as Steigerwald via Dr Fischer auctions, and another in the Harrach book, that have incredible similarities to Stuart shapes and decors.  I will post on those as well once I have a moment.

Thank you again to Keith and brucebanner - much appreciated.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2014, 06:50:11 PM »
You will love the museum, some of the most helpful people you would wish to meet, beautiful glass on all floors, the Georgian glass on the ground floor as you go in has to be my favourite bit.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2014, 06:51:39 PM »
oh yes :) I have been before.  But because I live so far away, it's an exhausting drive and they don't open until 12 so I only get a short time there.
I don't suppose there might be any way they might open a little earlier - I might ring and ask.
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2014, 07:15:10 PM »
Well they let me in on Monday when they were closed so anything is possible  :)
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2014, 09:38:26 AM »
1. Non-Stuart glass in the Stuart collection.

At least two pieces, the magnificent and much repaired Walsh "Opaline Brocade" epergne, and the Walsh "Water Lily" table centrepiece, were certainly not Stuart.

2.  The vase in Hajdamach 1, plate 258.

I have one (which I will have on display tomorrow), slightly smaller at 11" compared with 14.5" in the book, otherwise identical.   The peculiar top of these is identical to that on a vase  that Gulliver has identified as Stuart from the pattern books the only difference being that Gulliver's vase was shorter and squatter.   I've seen nothing in the continental glass links that looks remotely like this eclectic vase top.   So the vase in Hajdamach 1 is Stuart.

Take care with the date of Stuart's "Peacock Eye" patterns.   I know that circa 1910 onwards is now thought to be more realistic.

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: peacock eye trailed vases - Stuart or Walsh? late 19th or Edwardian?
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2014, 09:48:33 AM »
Thank you Bernard.

I'm not sure what you mean about the Stuart dates though.
'Take care with the date of Stuart's "Peacock Eye" patterns.   I know that circa 1910 onwards is now thought to be more realistic.'

I have  Harrods catalogue pages with Stuart Peacock eye trail vases in and it's a 1907 catalogue they are from.

Can you help at all with the one question I have about the Jules Barbe vase in CH british Glass page 53 - the one given to his daughter? That is captioned Thomas Webb and it says Jules Barbe gave it to his daughter.  I believe it's a Stuart vase.
Thank you for any help you can give.
I appreciate it
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