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Author Topic: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)  (Read 3591 times)

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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2015, 07:46:15 PM »
Just adding this link which will disappear in time
but it's a lovely example of this style with most of the gilding intact so it's possible to get an idea of how pretty they would have looked when newly done.. and also a good way of showing how much of the original decoration might have disappeared from the vases over time.  The 'bubbly' stuff that John and I discussed looks to have been gilded originally.
http://www.rubylane.com/item/365154-RL-445/Bohemian-Moser-4-1-2x94-White
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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2015, 08:15:33 PM »
And of couse its Moser...I swear 98% of the glass on line attributed to Moser is anything but.

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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2015, 08:22:11 PM »
Yes  >:(  It's really really annoying.

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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2016, 09:07:41 PM »
I know ... I've been all over the world with these  ;D
but I'm determined to try and work out where they are from.

I just don't think they are Bohemian :-[

I came across this piece today - Transylvanian 1740

If you scroll down the link it is a bottle ish shaped vase with a pale pink enamelled background   and a flower cartouche on it. (seems to be page 47/130 writ on the bottom of the page)

It's different in many ways to those on here(but since it is dated 1740 and given the proliferation of those on this thread I doubt these are that age, it's not surprising it has difference) , but still has distinct similaries - the pale enamelled background, on the white opaline base glass, the little tiny white tin opacified dots around a central cartouche, the little coloured dotted flowers - I think I'm close :) :)  I think these might be more recent versions of a 'local' style glass.

http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2002-5w-varga-ungarn-glashuetten.pdf

These little ceramic shot glasses are contemporary but they have the little flowers on with stem and two leaves
http://www.ebay.es/itm/6x-Hecho-A-Mano-De-Ceramica-Esmaltada-Shot-De-Vidrio-De-Transilvania-arte-hungaro-/272203739976

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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2016, 11:33:24 PM »
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47181.0;attach=100233;image

The one above was the most recent one I owned but I've owned a few.  They were all different but all have similarities - the opaline glass body the pale enamelled colours.  This rose one was the one that stood out from the others but I think they are all from a similar region.  Perhaps different villages had different designs?

I think the history of Transylvania as listed here in Wiki, might explain why I thought there were similarities with some Beykoz glass( the pieces with flowers on that I linked to earlier in the thread) and also why I think there are definite similarities with that Transylvanian vase I linked to on Pressglas Korrespondenz -

'Transylvania is a historical region in central Romania. It was part of the Dacian Kingdom (1st–2nd centuries CE), Roman Dacia (2nd–3rd centuries), the Hunnic Empire (4th–5th centuries), the Kingdom of the Gepids (5th–6th centuries), the Avar Khaganate (6th–9th centuries) and the 9th century First Bulgarian Empire. During the late 9th century, western Transylvania was reached by the Hungarian conquerors[1] and later it became part of the Kingdom of Hungary, formed in 1000 CE. After the Battle of Mohács in 1526 it belonged to the Eastern Hungarian Kingdom, from which the Principality of Transylvania emerged. During most of the 16th and 17th centuries, the principality was a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire; however, the principality had dual suzerainty (Ottoman and Habsburg).[2][3] In 1690, the Habsburgs gained possession of Transylvania through the Hungarian crown.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania

So there may have been outside influences on the region/s where these were made, hence them having a 'moorish' type style in some instances?

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Re: Elaborately Decorated Vase (way over the top)
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2016, 12:36:54 AM »
there is a link here to Romanian rugs and furniture.
I can certainly see some of these vases fitting well with the designs on these items.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/origin/romanian/

this one has a repeat of the little flowers on it

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/rugs-carpets/western-european-rugs/bessarabian-rug/id-f_576665/

https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/8597/1057/XXX_8597_1319836068_1.jpg

This one has the cartouche type designs and repeat flowers
The seller makes some very interesting comments:
'Bessarabian rugs in pile and tapestry technique originating in Russian provinces as well as Ukraine and Moldova Bulgaria and Romania during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Produced under late ottoman rule, they stand right on the cusp of European and Oriental carpet weaving. Dimensions: 5' x 7'. Many of the designs crafted in Bessarabian carpets are floral in motif and all works of the Bessarabian category are highly decorative. Many of the designs crafted in Bessarabian carpets are floral in motif. The designs usually fit within a black or brown tone background, executed in a naturalistic western. Some pieces, in particular the flat-weaves, are woven with the distinctive Bessarabian palette in the tradition of Kilim rugs from nearby Anatolia.'

https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/10800/34_15/2900662/2900662_l.jpeg

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/rugs-carpets/area-rugs-carpets/bessarabian-kilim/id-f_2900662/


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