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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 07:51:37 PM »
http://www.thegildedcurio.com/item-402.html
this is I think the same decor as one of the three vases I was thinking of and this decor (I'm 99.99% sure)  is pictured on page 131 of Truitts as Welz.
The other two are in a similar vein but different decors.
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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 08:08:14 PM »
Interesting attribution - Welz or Stevens and Williams. It looks satinated too, the time frame and sort of overall style may well be similar. Just need to find the right ball park. Rome was not built in a day.. ;D

Check this one out, quite close: http://www.thegildedcurio.com/item-401.html

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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2012, 09:15:23 PM »
yes very interesting, because another vase incredibly similar to that decor you've just linked to,  is also in Truitts page 131 as Welz.    Both that one and the other one I linked to (and was I believe an identical decor to a piece id'd as Welz in Truitts), have organicly shaped curvy handles on in the Truitts volume. 
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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 10:15:16 AM »
I can see that I have a couple more books to add to the 'to buy list'. Are the Truitts volumes considered to be well researched?

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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 12:55:33 PM »
I don't think any of those are made in exactly the same way. If you look at the white it is spot on horizontal on every row. The yellow is pulled but that doesn't explain the white.

The Gilded Curio (Ailsa) generally knows her stuff. The Truitts' books are pretty well researched but as is inevitable, do have some errors. M if you are going to quote the Truitts you should say which book, as there are two.


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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 01:09:04 PM »
yes sorry I knew that and should have gone back and quoted - Collectible Bohemian Glass 1880-1940 by Robert and Deborah Truitt.
Christine I can see what you mean and they aren't made in the same way. 
Also, I have been looking through Gulliver's 'Victorian Decorative Glass British Designs 1850-1914' and there are some vases in there which have a cut and polished rim  :-[

Without wishing to divert the thread (sorry John) I must just say though that the last vase linked to by John on The Gilded Curio, I am pretty certain is the same decor as no 6 page 131 in Truitt's Bohemian Glass 1880-1940, and it is classified in there as Welz  :-\

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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 01:12:15 PM »
 ;D

I can't look at any of them closely - they jiggle around and switch rapidly between different sorts of optical illusions for me - it's quite headachey/Bridget Riley...
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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 01:13:27 PM »
But not everything in Gulliver's is British, unfortunately


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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 01:26:11 PM »
mmm - there lies the rub.
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Re: Satinated cranberry posy vase with twisted cane decoration
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 08:26:27 PM »
The yellow is pulled but that doesn't explain the white.

The white and yellow could be on the same cane. Take a flattened cane which is mostly yellow but has a white stripe on one side, twist it and perhaps this effect can be achieved once pulled?

John


 

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