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Author Topic: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930  (Read 1572 times)

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Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« on: April 04, 2012, 05:20:45 PM »
John Simmonds: Paperweights From Great Britain 1930-2000
Schiffer Book for Collectors 2000
Page 25
Fig.35

J. S. describes an rare colored sulphide of two ducks.
Has anybody on the board more information's about  Paul or Salvadores sulphides from this time?
Or more information of that kind of their paperweights (diameter, high, kind of glass, how is the base like)?
I will send pictures later.

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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 05:26:29 PM »
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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 07:48:00 PM »
In my opinion, the pics look like more early Chinese then the Ysarts, or not?

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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 08:19:41 PM »
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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 08:26:15 PM »
the same faceting .

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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 09:13:23 PM »
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Hi Lothar.

I think it is always important to question what you read in books, because occasionally they are wrong.  My feeling is that this may be one of those occasions, and that the ducks paperweight shown in John Simmonds book is actually Chinese.  To me the ducks look very like the creatures that appear in some of the Chinese 'aquarium' weights, and the weight in general bears little similarity to Paul's work.

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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 10:07:23 PM »
had these same ducks before, in the same shape weight of Lother's  , a square one and a square one with small facets on the corners but the square ones had just one duck in them.... had them many moons ago
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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 12:24:47 AM »
The ducks weight in the book is Chinese.

John Simmonds is aware of the incorrect attribution, which was unfortunately not noted until after publication.
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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 09:53:39 AM »
Does anybody know how old that little Chinese weights are?
About 1950?

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Re: Help: Sulfure Salvador and Paul Ysart 1920 or 1930
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2012, 10:32:22 AM »
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Hi Lothar

I think the small Chinese sulphide weights may be older than that - probably 1930s to 1940s.

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