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Offline mjr

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Help in identification please
« on: March 23, 2006, 03:27:44 PM »
Anyone have an idea about who might have done this butterfly weight

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Additional photos of profile and base
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It may well be lucite.
This is part of an auction lot which I haven't seen in the flesh - only photographs. I bought it because of a couple of old english weights.
The decription is that they are all glass. I had not seen anything like it before but I was therefore thinking glass and never thought plastic. Unfortunately the photo of the top that I posted was the only one there was (and cropped from a group photo). I did get the larger profile and base photos as I was getting them for the other two weights. .
I'll wait until it comes. If it is lucite then the kids can have it.
Martin

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2006, 01:56:55 PM »
Martin, it may be an ok glass one.

Do you have, or have access to, the Peter Von Brackel book - Paperweights, Historicism, Art Nouveau, Art Deco, 1842 to Present? If so, check plate 57, page 183, item 404, which seems to be the same shape facet cutting as yours and also has a fairly convincing butterfly. It's attributed as "Bohemia / Czechoslovakia, c 1900-1930". That one is set over coloured frit with a few flower petals.

Two examples with different facet cutting, are seen in Plates 56 & 59. These both have butterflies with antennae very much like yours. The first (item 401) is said to be "Probably Southern Bohemia or Hungary, c 1910-1930". The second (item 416) is, "Probably Silesia or Thuringia, c 1890-1925".
KevinH

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006, 10:09:25 PM »
Kev
I haven't got that book. I'm not sure if anyone up here in the north has it - I will ask around. Otherwise is you have the time a scan would be appreciated but only if you have nothing better to do . However sounds very interesting. Its always nice if the gut reaction is  correct.  Definitely loking forward to receiving the weight now.

and nice cufflinks ,by the way.
Martin

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2006, 10:24:02 PM »
Hi Martin,

Sweetbriar have a copy of the book. Even with Ray M's recent change of location, you may still be able to view (or buy?) it. Maybe Sue B can help you out?

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and nice cufflinks ,by the way
I've been looking for a pair with that design for about 10 years! I will wear them with happiness. :)
KevinH

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2006, 12:51:26 PM »
Kev

I will sort something with Ray -maybe cadge a copy of the relevant page.  Sue isn't with them any more.  She is still doing sterling NPS work however.
I though the links were nice. I just received a pair with Ysart stones (nice complex blue canes) on square base from USA on Thursday so  had those on that evening. I also have triangular and round ones
Martin

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Your butterfly is a Bohemian piece
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 05:26:58 PM »
Your weight is Glass and the butterfly is constructed from a series of canes.

It's Bohemian circa the 1920s-30s.

I have one as well.

Give me your email address & I'll send you a pic of mine. [/img]

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2006, 06:53:10 AM »
Mark

Thanks for the picture. It's very nice and is a ringer for mine. Looking forward to getting the weight and seeing the cane set up in detail.
Martin

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2006, 11:23:11 AM »
Martin are any of your cufflinks likely to fill gaps here?  :)  http://www.ysartglass.com/PaulYsart/PYP5cuff.htm
Frank A.
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