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Offline scavo

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Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« on: May 10, 2012, 09:09:02 PM »
I believe this is a Lollipop vase.

I think the signature is 1968 to early '70s (Wayne's site).

Sticker looks old but I don't haven't found any info online and I don't have Mark's book.

Charles H's book say's it's a fish vase (which I believe is an error).

Can anyone either tell me, or tell me where I can find this info?

Thanks, Steve.

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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 08:01:41 AM »
Looking through Mark Hill's book I agree with you: a Lollipop vase.
The label is supposed to have been used until mid-1970ies. A shape (or order) number would have been written in the blank area.
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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 10:04:24 AM »
It's an uncut "Cut-Ice" Lollipop. In quite a desirable early design. I believe these were made while Michael Harris was still there and that they are his design - and although they carried on being made after he left , I don't think it was for too long.
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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 12:07:48 PM »
Thanks Wolf and Sue,
you have both confirmed my thoughts.

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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 03:34:06 PM »
I've just noticed one side is marver finished and the other is cut/polished.

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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 04:22:49 PM »
So it's simply a Cut-Ice Lollipop!

Sometimes they're just marvered on both sides - again an indication that it might be early because there wasn't enough staff time to give to the cutting that day.
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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 04:28:41 PM »
Both the label and the dremel signature date this to after Harris left in 1972.  So mid to late 70s would be my estimate.

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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 04:35:04 PM »
Is that a dremmel? It's not nearly as wide as the one I've assumed is.
For a dremmel - it's quite neat.

But yes, just the presence of a "normal" sort of Mdina script would suggest post-Harris - even if by not very much!
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Re: Working out the age of this Mdina Lollipop vase
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 06:01:58 PM »
I've been looking through signatures and have found this
http://www.specialistauctions.com/view_newsletter.php?id=1038

And to the way Mdina is scribed looks very much like the Eric Dobson style above.
If I am right. Does it narrow down the age range?


 

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