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Offline David E

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Date for Isle-of-Wight vase, please?
« on: March 28, 2006, 05:39:53 PM »
I'd be grateful if someone could advise on a date for this large Isle-of-Wight vase.

 :shock: click to zoom :shock:


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A superb design where the included bubbles merge with and divert the purple and blue trails. The vase is 10" (25cm) tall and 4-3/8" (11cm) diameter. Note the partial paper label in the final photo.

The information I have dates this prior to 1980, but I would be grateful for confirmation.[/url]
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2006, 05:56:19 PM »
:D:D:D

This pattern is called "pink and purple swirl" ( :shock::shock::shock:)
The flame pontil means it was pre-1982.
I believe this pattern came out after "Seaward", and around about the same time as "Aurene", probably sometime in the mid seventies.
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2006, 06:01:10 PM »
Great, thanks Sue! Just replied to your e-mail as well!

I'm helping out this guy who's got an incredible amount of glass (thought my collecting habit was bad!) and I'm just helping out with identification.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2006, 08:04:15 AM »
:D:D:D

I just got your email, David, it looks as if you and I both thought the same! There's an attenuated bottle, listed in Miller's guide '05, p314, with a broken pontil mark, dated at '73-'74. I shall have to track down the date for the start of the flame pontil mark.
Early stuff had broken pontil marks. They started experimenting with putting a blob of glass over the pontil, the first appropriate thing that came to hand to mark the blob was a coach-bolt with a round head, so there are some early "coach-bolt" pontil marks. I have a couple of these, on "Seaward" pieces. The flame pontil would suggest your date of '75 was pretty accurate, David - I was being more cautious!
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2006, 09:43:36 AM »
Sue & David — this is very useful information, new to me.   I have a mystery piece that looks right, but could not be IoW because it has a simple broken-off pontil.   It needs reappraising.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2006, 12:05:03 PM »
Bernard, as I read it, Sue says the very early stuff did have broken pontils

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2006, 12:21:00 PM »
Christine — Apologies, I had not made myself clear.   I had formerly not considered IoW a possibility because it had a broken pontil mark.   With this new information I will reappraise it.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2006, 09:34:29 AM »
:D:D:D

Any chance of a piccie, Bernard? Pretty, pretty please?
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2006, 04:58:41 PM »
BUMP - a photo would be handy, Bernard! :D
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2006, 05:43:00 PM »
Sorry, folks, I haven't found it yet.

You will be the first to know when I do.

Thanks for the reminder, Bernard C.  8)
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