Topic: vasart? small adventurine vase

[sussexglass]

recently aquired this small mainly red with adventurine? flecks vase. would appreciate any help with id.  has a chinese yen yen inspired shape, seen similar shape on strathearn page ysartglass  no leaping fish on base seems quite rough in places on unground? base . vase quite heavy for its 4 1/2 inch height. outer clear glass layer has a couple  small of defects/ artifacts of manufacture many thanks

[chopin-liszt]

I would strongly suspect Strathearn. These smaller pieces don't often have the leaping salmon pontil mark.

[KevinH]

Based on the fact that hardly any (if any at all) Strathearn paperweights had rough grinding to the base, I would suggest Vasart (1956 - 1964). Or did Strathearn use neater finishing for paperweights only?

[sussexglass]

thanks for your imput.  does anyone have info on the relative thickness and relative weight difference between the various enterprises of the ysart's vases as some of the various info on web seems contradictory to me. also are the defects i mentioned to the surface ( its like an applied irregular blob with a proud edge with very thin trail extending  about 3/4 inch)  layer more prevalent at one particular vsart glasshouse than another?  many thanks again for any info

[Gary]

That type of base finish was used in the later years of Vasart production and in the early years of Strathearn.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/IDguide1.htm
To date, no Vasart of that shape of vase has been recorded though Strathearn did produce a vase that shape (V037).
http://www.ysartglass.com/Vascat/VasV021.htm
Gary

[chopin-liszt]

And Vasart didn't often use strong colours such as this. It looks quite thick, which says Strathearn is likely to me, along with the colour.

[sussexglass]

sue and gary, thanks for your imput. its appreciated. its certainly noticeably heavier and a bit thicker than a monart bowl (label) i have and has  surface artifacts of manufacture that my monart piece does not have. my only query now is how often did strathearn use adventurine?  many thanks

[chopin-liszt]

Strathearn used aventurine quite a lot.

[KevinH]

That type of base finish was used in the later years of Vasart production and in the early years of Strathearn.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/IDguide1.htm

Gary, could you please quote a part of the text from that "IDguide" that mentions a ground base finish for early Strathearn. The only reference I know of is to the grinding off of the Strathearn Leaping Salmon in an attempt to pass off items as Monart.

[nigel benson]

Ah Hum!

V037 unrecorded?? How remiss of me I've had this sitting in the display cabinaet for a few years now:http://www.20thcentury-glass.org.uk/id59.html   I've only just added the photo, so you may have to wait for the servers to pick it up......sorry!! Below the dark green cliosonne Vasart you'll find a small V037 Vasart vase.

I'd add it here, but I find it too darn frustrating working out how to do it!

Oh, the vase on the thread is certainly Strathearn 

Nigel