Author Topic: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight? ID = Murano. Possibly Fratelli Toso?  (Read 753 times)

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Offline Otis Orlando

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Hi all,  I recently acquired this unusual looking paperweight.  My first thoughts were possible Chinese.  I have looked this up but to no avail.   I have tried other sites but nothing with that peculiar design.  The base is relatively flat but mainly worn on one side, which may not be clear on the attached pictures.  Any ideas as to who made it?  Measurements:  Dia. 4.4cm, Height 3.2cm and a flat polished base measuring approximately 2.9cm dia.
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 09:53:07 PM »
The canes look very Murano to me.

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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 06:30:55 AM »
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Agreed - 100% Murano.

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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 09:56:51 AM »
Hi All

It looks like they have used the thick end of a complex cane to make the design, so it is a one cane weight. Most unusual

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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 10:17:27 PM »
Hi all,  Thanks for your attribution.   I must say, I would never of thought it would be Murano.  That is certainly pleasing to know.   I have spent a couple of hours trying to research this type of design but unable to find any that are similar when paying attention to the pattern.  When you say "one cane weight" Roy.  Does that include the pleated aubergine and white  design? The 7 canes within the centre, are very small and intricate compared to some of the more common canes I've seen and each are only approx. 0.3cm in dia.  It would also be interesting find out who actually made this paperweight and period.
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 08:01:27 AM »
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Hi Otis.

If you scan through my Murano Project images on my website you will find very similar canes in Fratelli Toso weights - but that does not guarantee it was made by them.  As for date, I would guess 1960s - 1980s.

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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 09:36:01 AM »
Hi Otis

Yes that includes everything. Often to make a complex cane they combine other canes and then add the outer coating to make just one complex cane which can then be pulled to any diameter required. This always leaves the thicker ends attached to the pontil rods which are usually discarded. I think in this case they have used them.

Just a suggestion!!

Roy


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Re: Mini Star Shape Millifiori Paperweight?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 07:09:58 PM »
Thanks! for the info. Roy, a clearer understanding in the process is beginning to sink in now.  ::)

 Lots of info. available on the Murano Project Site.  Wow! well displayed too.  Having zoomed in on the Fratelli Toso paperweights as per your reference Alan, I noticed that most of the canes had three layers of star shape design around the centre red cane, where as, the one displayed on this post has two.  Would this  be one of your reasons for not being able to provide a positive identification? just a question to further my knowledge and understanding.

I spent the evening browsing for further info. and whilst rifling through my paperweights collected over a good number of years with interest.   To my surprise, I managed to find one that is very similar to the one posted.  The shape of the paperweight is more oval and slightly larger, but still contains the same characteristics.  The only main difference is the outer white star shape band, that is thinner.  I tried searching for one with this particular style on your site and other sites, but not had much luck.  The dimensions of this paperweigh is Height 4.2cm, widest point 4.6cm and the flat base dia. 3.2cm.  Here are the attached pics.
"Queztionz + (Pozitive + Negative Answerz )= Rezultz.  Rezultz can be + or a - and ztill will end up az Rezutlz".  -(Pozitve + or - Jokuz+ Negative Anzwers), can alzo be deemed az a negative or droll rezult to the initiator. ;)    OO


 

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