No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Goldberg or Moser?Amethyst cologne Acid Cut Back gilded panel birds/flowers  (Read 22845 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline andrea

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 2
  • I'm new, please be gentle
    • moser
    • canada
had someone with some knowledge tell me it could be a Moser, there are no markings etc...i'm not a collector, was just doing a little research after someone mentioned it could have some value, looks lonely on our book shelves, if anyone has similar pieces, let me know.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12693
    • UK
This one is listed as Adolf Beckert  - can anyone confirm this person's listing is correct or not?  I've added what they put as their reference source below but I don't have access to it unfortunately.  And I couldn't find anything else similar under Beckert but did find two listed together (one looks the same as the one listed as Beckert I think) and they are both listed as Oertel  :-\ -

The listing is:
a clear faceted vase with a foot and the same oroplastic 'Asiatic Pheasant' decoration as in my perfume bottle - described in this listing as 'Bird of paradise'
The title of the listing is
Fachschule STEINSCHÖNAU Schliffglas Vase ° Paradiesvogel Dekor ADOLF BECKERT
the reference for the id is
Literatur: Pazaurek um 1920, Loetz Band I.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fachschule-STEINSCHONAU-Schliffglas-Vase-Paradiesvogel-Dekor-ADOLF-BECKERT-/380606002975?pt=Design_Stil&hash=item589de2b71f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gr-Fus-Schale-Joh-Oertel-Steinschonau-um-1920-/200902817118?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item2ec6bdb55e

m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12693
    • UK
I happened upon this lamp whilst searching for something else.
Same oroplastic decoration as my perfume bottle (listed as Moser but no reference source or mention of signature).
Adding for future reference for the shape.
http://www.nealauction.com/archive/0404/lot/lottext/0001-0100/0052.html

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12693
    • UK
Re: Goldberg or Moser?Amethyst cologne Acid Cut Back gilded panel birds/flowers
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2015, 05:36:45 PM »
Not exactly identical design but kind of like it's been 'copied' from the Phoenix decoration somehow - like a newer version I guess.  Has been identified as Crystalex Production Unit 2 Novy Bor - I've added a link to this thread because that might provide a vital link to the maker and designer of the earlier 'Phoenix' oroplastic pieces.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4716.msg38020.html#msg38020
m

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12693
    • UK
Re: Goldberg or Moser?Amethyst cologne Acid Cut Back gilded panel birds/flowers
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2020, 12:35:15 PM »
I think this might be Johann Oertel according to this from Antikes Neuwirth:
https://antikes-glas.de/en/oertel-haida-m-37.html
Item is third row down left hand side. A bowl facet cut in the same colour as my cologne bottle and with what I believe is the same oroplastic decoration around it.

When you click on the actual picture of the vase it doesn't come up unfortunately however the description does and it says:
Translate -
'Foot shell made of lilac-colored, multi-faceted glass, bell-shaped foot with nodus, bell-shaped stepped cup with arched facets and circumferential oroplatic decor, birds between spiral-shaped flower tendrils. Shell is in the healed state.
Johann Oertel & Co in Haida based on drafts from the technical school around 1920-25
Height: approx 16.0 cm. Diameter: approx. 14.5 cm
Lit: specimen copies in the Passau Glass Museum,
Room 32.
These items were exhibited at the World Exhibition in Paris around 1925.'


Original quote:
'Fußschale aus lilafarbenem, vielfach facettiertem Glas, glockenförmiger Fuß mit Nodus, glockenförmige getreppte Kuppa mit Bogenfacetten und umlaufenden oroplatischen Dekor, Vögel zwischen spiralförmigen Blumenranken. Schale befindet sich im heilen Zustand.
Johann Oertel &  Co in Haida nach Etwürfen der Fachschule um 1920-25
Höhe: ca. 16,0 cm. Durchmesser: ca. 14,5 cm
Lit: Belegexemplare im Passauer Glasmuseum,
Raum 32.
Diese Artikel wurden auf der Weltausstellung in Paris um 1925 ausgestellt.
'
https://antikes-glas.de/en/oertel-haida/foot-bowl-with-oroplastischen-decoration-oertel-1920-p-1289.html

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand