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Offline mildawg

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Re: Rare NEGC Papetrweight from 1818 ?????????????
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 07:40:39 PM »
My name is not Alan, I do not claim to be as knowledgable as Allan or Andy, but like them my name starts with an A (two of them in fact) and I must agree in that I would lean towards pairpoint.

A year or two ago I may have quickly given credit to NEGC.


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Re: Rare NEGC Papetrweight from 1818 ?????????????
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 12:08:13 AM »
I asked John Hawley for his thoughts in that he is the NEGC/American antique Millefiori expert having researched and written a number of great books on the topic. His view is that in no way is it NEGC, but he did offer a guess that maybe it was Silesia, late 1800s to near 1900. Alan's thoughts as the English/Belgium expert will be welcomed to try and resolve this puzzle.

I took a gander at Von Brackel's book and I am not convinced about a Silesian origin. I still think that the canes resemble most those of the early Pairpoint.

And lest anyone think I am denigrating the weight - on the contrary - I find it to be a very intellectually interesting piece and worthy of any collection.


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Re: Rare NEGC Papetrweight from 1818 ?????????????
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 01:04:25 PM »
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I am not an expert on Pairpoint, but I have certainly seen some similar style (but neater) canes in Pairpoint paperweights. The canes do not resemble any NEGC ones that I have seen - nor do I think it is Silesian.

I understand why one might suggest Old English, but I do not recognise any of the canes. If the weight had turned up on my desk I might have suggested it could be Belgian!

A mystery piece, as far as I am concerned.

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Re: Rare NEGC Papetrweight from 1818 ?????????????
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2012, 03:37:37 PM »
In my opinion here we have a Pairpoint piece and that is really far away from the discussed item:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/221088194046?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D221088194046%26_rdc%3D1
A mystery piece and nobody knows what it is?



 

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