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Offline Marie Chauvin

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Vaseline Opalescent Lamp Base?
« on: April 01, 2006, 11:29:41 PM »
Hi All
I have a vaseline opalescent vase? that I've seen used as a lamp base.  It was attributed to Fenton and it was also indicated that it was made as a special order for the Edward Paul Company.  It's 6 3/4 inches high x 3 inches at the base.  I wondered if anyone could verify this information or provide any background on it.  

Please see the pictures:
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Thanks much
Marie


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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2006, 10:09:14 AM »
Marie -

I don't have the Fenton Special Order book which covers the most likely time frame for production. If it is documented in a book, then it is probably this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764318128/002-0853659-8192813?v=glance&n=283155

I have the later 1980-present Special order one  :? It is not in any of the books that cover their regular lines.

To me it really does not look like Fenton.  The shape is unlike any of their other pieces. It more resembles a Duncan hobnail piece  :?


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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2006, 11:46:20 AM »
Yes, the item is shown in the Fenton Special order book that Connie mentioned (1940s-80s). It is a lamp base and is shown with the fitting in. The color shown in the book is green opalescent. The caption reads:

Edward P Paul: Lamp: Green Opalescent Hobnail. $100 - 125. Not pictured, blue opalescent.

In the book text it mentions that Edward Paul concentrated on lamps that they fitted with Fenton made glass, but that they also sold items from Fenton's regular. Topaz / vaseline opal is not mentioned in the book.

The time line referred to is "during the second world war".

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2006, 11:49:32 AM »
Thanks so much for your help.  I'll pursue that info further.
Marie


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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2006, 12:52:23 PM »
Marie's piece has to be pre-WWII  or post war since niether Topaz (vaseline) glass nor opalescent glass was made during the WWII era because of the unavailability of uranium for the topaz and the bone ash for the opalescent.


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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2006, 12:59:28 PM »
Yes, that figures Connie. I'm just writing what I read in the book. I can't add anything of a personal nature as I don't know much about this item. Just what it says in the book you suggested.

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2006, 03:22:37 PM »
Hi Glen -

I wasn't contrdicting what you said just providing more info to narrow the time frame.

Topaz opalescent hobnail was intoduced in 1941 and discontinued in 1943 due to restrictions of ingredients due to WWII.  It was reintroduced in 1959 and made through 1961.

As a special order item, I suppose that it could have been made outside these timeframes.  But this is when Fenton was making topaz opalescent hobnail glass for their own sales.


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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2006, 03:36:10 PM »
Hi Connie - no I didn't mean to suggest you were (the old problem with the written word  :oops: ). I was just trying to say that I'm not much use in helping on the actual item. I only looked in that book 'cos you suggested it was where to go - and it was  :lol:

I was trying to paraphrase rather than quote directly - I understood from what the book said, that Edward Paul had imported from Europe previously, and that "during the second world war" they used Fenton because of obvious supply issues. I quoted all the colors mentioned for that item - and no topaz opal. It would seem, therefore, given your extra info about the timeline for that color, it must have been made at the later date (and not before WW2). What do you reckon, Connie?

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2006, 02:01:16 PM »
:) Connie and Glen
Thanks so much for taking time out to help me with my vase.  I appreciate your time and effort.
Sincerely
Marie


 

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