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Re: Glass bird, is it what it says it is? Help needed please.
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 09:44:18 AM »
Even though this era of glass does interest me , the blatant attempt at fraud infuriates me,linked accounts and items have all been reported,will anything happen???.

 Surely it is in the interest of the GMB as a whole to assist were possible our less informed members of blatantly fraudulent activity whether it be on fleabay or otherwise, only with the dissemination of this valuable information can members be reassured that the GMB is the place to come for accurate assistance with glass identification which I understood to be a primary function of the GMB.

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Re: Glass bird, is it what it says it is? Help needed please.
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 09:49:09 AM »
Hi Peter,
That is precisely why I started this thread,  but I do not want it to be locked!

Let's just add info FACTUALLY as we glean it, then we will be doing precisely what you have said.

Rosie.
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Re: Glass bird, is it what it says it is? Help needed please.
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 10:26:15 AM »
I hope they also end the auction for the item selling as ''Lalique '' (mentioned in one of the above links) some poor person currently leads the bidding at 425.


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Re: Glass bird, is it what it says it is? Help needed please.
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 11:27:19 AM »
 Reported to fleabay with links to original sale, seller also provided with the same links ,what will happen ? who knows ,

 a little tale for those interested , a replica Austrian enameled beaker was offered as such by a prominent UK auction house.it was unsold 3 times , on re offering in the provinces with the same description it was purchased by a fleabay seller and offered up  as the genuine article ,the seller was informed by several people that the listing was inaccurate, fleabay was informed , the sellers local trading standards office was also informed , both having been provided with the 3 previous public auction listings  stating it to be a replica, what happened , nothing !!!, the item sold for a lot of money. so i waited for feedback from the buyer and informed them of the sellers fraudulent listing , next thing i heard was from the seller who threatened me with a suit for' Liable '( hee hee spelling was also lacking with this seller),well that was the red rag to the bull,his threat was soon followed by an email from fleabay telling me that i was a naughty boy and that if I continued to interfere with sellers listings my account would be suspended , an even bigger rag to the bull , fortunately I have a very good friend who is a QC, he kindly provided me with an email letter to forward to both the seller and to fleabay stating that a suit for Libel can only be successful if the information being communicated by written or electronic means is factually incorrect and having looked at the available evidence this was obviously not the case , the seller was invited to proceed with his' liable' case against me and fleabay was informed that if any action was taken to suspend my account then they would be called into court as being complicit in allowing fraudulent activity. No further comment was received from either the seller or fleabay but a few weeks later a short note from the buyer was received , saying 'Thanks'.

Job Done.

cheers ,
             Peter.
ps i should also add that in the past fleabay themselves have contacted me to give a 3rd party opinion on items sold as antique that the buyers believed to be not , my opinion has on those occasions always been accepted,but do they act when I give my opinion before a buyer complains , no !!!!  ???

pps   ended  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=251133963470&nma=true&rt=nc&si=vzaKWMjKfcaE%252F8ojYjL1l0nnGQg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_3222wt_1265


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Re: Glass bird, is it what it says it is? Help needed please.
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2012, 12:42:18 PM »
yes Rosie , same buyer and same seller , 2 linked accounts , I informed both accounts of what has been noted , so far the birdies have come down , waiting now for the 'Lalique!!!', if I/we can see very clearly what is going on then why cant , lol or wont fleabay see the same thing , the more 'report an item ' messages that are sent should wake them up .

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2012, 02:20:36 PM »
I think this is where the Pukeberg napkin ring came from


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=261079406855

....and this same seller has another one for sale...I wonder who will buy it?
Rosie.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2012, 02:26:39 PM »
correct again , the same 2 culprits , ,this 1 has been dealt with  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290764341093?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2657wt_1165.

I would be surprised if the same trick was tried with the second napkin holder but you never know,obviously the temptation was too much for the seller to take the 'Lalique' down so it's wait for the feedback now .

cheers,
              Peter.

 

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