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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 10:03:43 AM »
Thanks for the info, Gary, :) I didn't know the dates - just thought the handles and piping looked as if JB might have been involved.

Also, thanks for posting it.  8) Gets discussion going, which is always good!

Having peered at the construction of the colours in the body, I think I'm starting to agree with t'other Gary - that it's just not right at all..... strange.
I'll ask my brother what he thinks about it and report back!
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »
Thanks for the info, Gary, :) I didn't know the dates - just thought the handles and piping looked as if JB might have been involved.

Also, thanks for posting it.  8) Gets discussion going, which is always good!

Having peered at the construction of the colours in the body, I think I'm starting to agree with t'other Gary - that it's just not right at all..... strange.
I'll ask my brother what he thinks about it and report back!
JB?? sue, you mean JD no?


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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 11:59:46 AM »
Jesus Brasso = JB.
Not coming to Scotland until 1930.  ;D
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 12:35:14 PM »
Jesus Brasso = JB.
Not coming to Scotland until 1930.  ;D

lol awwwww duh what a doughball i am lol


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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 01:10:11 PM »
Hmm, looks like someone wanted a glass trophy as opposed to silver/plate, or chrome. If so that might mean it is traceable, since we have the date.

As for all the flummery (including the handle), it's horrible - but if you remove it you're left very much with a Monart shape.

Nigel


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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 01:23:53 PM »
I agree Nigel, but have you really enlarged the images to look at how the colours are worked?
They don't look quite right to me - but you've seen and fondled a lot more than I have!

If somebody wanted a trophy, why would "Ysart" be the name piped onto it?
Unless of course, it was for somebody in the family.
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 01:28:38 PM »
......maybe I should have actually looked at the second image!!!!!!!! :o

Doh ???



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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 02:53:48 PM »
well am sticking to my guns on this one, doesnt look right to me , i still think its not as old as its made out to be, im sticking with adventurine doesnt look like ysarts to me, handles and their colour doesnt look right, something not right about this piece , alarm bells still ringing loudly , ::)


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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 03:45:32 PM »
The following images are reproduced by kind permission of Bonhams Auction House Edinburgh.
Monart shapes H and Q have piping on them.
The link below shows an example of Monart shape C with piping.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-monart-pumice-vase-2087949-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=2087949&sid=78ccdb3b-fcab-4790-949d-d0b846b06b49
Jesus Braso started to work for J Moncrieff Glassworks 28/12/39, this information comes from the archives held at A.K. Bell library Perth (Company Records).
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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 03:47:17 PM »
More pics
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