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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2012, 10:10:41 PM »
Below is an image of Vincent Ysart signature from the Moncrieff's employees ledger. This shows he spelt his surname with a Y.
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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2012, 05:45:12 PM »
Below is the email I received from
Miss Katherine Wright
Specialist
Ceramics and Glass
Design from 1860
Bonhams
 re the provenance of the vase.
"Thank you for sending the link.  Having seen the piece in person I feel is certainly Monart.  It came from a lady who inherited the vase from her father, who was an antiques dealer in Perth.
Katherine
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All the hard evidence is pointing towards the vase being Monart.
This is only one of many possibilities, Salvador was friendly with a Jack Henderson antique silver and jeweller from Perth, who we know was given a one off decanter (see link) by Salvador.
http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/YsartSpecial.htm
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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2012, 04:40:05 PM »
Below is an image of Antoine Ysart signature from the Moncrieff's employees ledger. This shows he spelt his surname with a Y.
I spoke to the grandson (who still runs the family business) of Jack Henderson and he confirmed his family never owned the piece.
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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2012, 06:46:21 PM »
Gary, I know nothing about Monart at all, but I've been musing on why this piece would be signed and dated.  It's a small piece as far as I can make out.  So if say Salvador made it for someone in 1927, why would it be signed Isart?  were Monart glass not well established as Monart by then?  So I was wondering did he make it as a personal gift for someone with the date for them on the front, but then as a 'signature' signed it Isart on the reverse..it's not a huge piece so the 'signature' would not have been huge really would it?  I wonder if it was because using glass was the only way of signing it, i.e they didn't have a way of acid etching or diamond marking the signature?
As I say, just wondering out loud about why :0
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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2012, 08:01:49 PM »
It is the date (9/3/27) either when is was made or presented, to whom  commissioned or received as a gift. It was not a normal production piece.
Gary
I did mention earlier in the thread that possibility and I believe it was not a piece that Moncreiff's sold, as their own thru the usual outlets for Monart Glass.
It is generally accepted if a piece was made by the Ysarts and in the Monart style at Moncrieff Glassworks then it is classed as Monart
You are right it is only 16cm high and the writting on it is fairly small. Moncrieff's did have the facility of acid etching, I can only presume they had some sort of engraver.


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Re: Monart piece signed and dated
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2012, 08:10:55 PM »
I've PM'd you Gary.

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