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Author Topic: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?  (Read 1378 times)

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Offline stew2u2

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Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« on: September 08, 2012, 08:26:14 PM »
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i have this what looks like a strathearn paperweight but it does not have the classic pontil mark. this has a roughly ground base. are some like this or is it a good copy
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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 10:05:34 PM »
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I'm sure that is a Strathearn paperweight - but not the best example of this design that I have seen.  Why the base is so messy, I do not know (perhaps a later interference?).

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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 05:51:25 PM »
With all (most?) of the base scratches being in one direction and quite large, I suggest the weight may have been briefly played with on a rough surface (concrete maybe) by a child before realising what they had done - or before a swift repremand from somebody.
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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 05:59:41 PM »
but id doesnt even have any sign of the usual dimple
thanks for looking
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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 06:08:21 PM »
Lots of Strathearn weights had smooth, polished base, so a fire-polished "dimple" (or even the impressed "leaping salmon" mark) will not always apply.
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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 08:16:03 PM »
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I don't recall ever seeing a Strathearn 'millefiori on muslin' that had anything other than a flat polished base - I've never seen one with a fire polished 'dimple', like you find on most Strathearn spokes. The clear ground Strathearn spokes - often dated - had flat polished bases, as otherwise you would see the uneven base from above.  I think that is the reason why many of the clear ground 1930s Paul Ysart weights have flat bases - so there is no pontil mark visible - but.... the flat polished base can get scratched.  The antique French / English / American weights usually had a polished concave base if they had a clear ground, so that scratches would not disfigure the design when seen from above - they would just be on the wear rim, which is not visible from above because of the optical properties of the design.

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Re: Strathearn paperweight rough pontil ?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »
thanks for the info alan and kevin loos like some little so and so might have been in trouble
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