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LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« on: September 10, 2012, 05:08:21 PM »
Was hoping somebody might be able to point me in the right direction with this one

Full inscription reads STEWARTS CREAM OF THE BARLEY, LVNH CONVENTION 1989  with a Stewart coat of arms in the centre.

so, I know that's a whisky and googling reveals LVNH is Licensed Victuallers' National Homes - a charity for retired publicans.

My main question is can it be assigned to a maker ? is the Scottish link too tenuous?

any ideas?

Cheers
Mel


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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 05:10:21 PM »
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Hi.  I think this will have been made by Caithness - but there are others on this board better placed to comment on that.

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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 05:14:42 PM »
Wow, thanks for the speedy reply Alan...I was hoping to be in that area. Mel


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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 08:17:41 PM »
It certainly could be Caithness - they have done lots of commissioned weights of this type - but I cannot be 100% sure. I have a 1993 flyer of their "coporate designs" - standard designs the customer would pick and have some sort of engraving (or sandblasting) added to the front facet: the basic design of your weight is not amongst them. As your weight was made 1989, this design could have been discontinued - or it is a design made especially for this commissioned weight.

It would be useful to have a side view as well, hopefully showing the basic design better, without any interference from the facetting.

Should we be able to attribute it to Caithness definitely, I certainly would appreciate your permission to include your image in the catalogue on Scotland's Glass.
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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 08:16:32 AM »
Hello Wolf, yes of course you would be very welcome to add pics if  we can pin it down to Caithness - if only it was signed  ::)

I'm rubbish at pictures and getting shiny round surfaces not to reflect things ( mainly me and windows ) is next to hopeless

To help, the two dark masses are deepest brown/black and the golden speckled mass is metallic and sparkly - if it was a  murano glass I'd say copper aventurine

cheers Mel


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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 11:22:41 AM »
It is copper aventurine


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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 02:15:48 PM »
thanks Christine  :-*


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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2012, 07:33:25 PM »
Hmm, well I contacted Caithness glass today and got a very speedy and polite reply back but they dont have archives pre 2007 since they downsized and moved (what a huge resource, I hope somebody has it safely kept somewhere) so now I suppose its contacting the distillery or the charity, neither of which seem to have obvious contact details.

Does anyone know of any other route worth taking to get a provenance for this weight?

Also, purely with my business head on here, is there much value and/or collectability to a possibly or possibly not caithness corporate unsigned paperweight?

cheers, mel

Edit: I know what I mean lol everything has a value its true but is it worth plonking it on ebay?


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Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 11:55:41 AM »
I had written a reply to suggest that it may have been LVMH - Luis Vuitton - who own Glemorangie, but it is definitely LVNH, and I cannot see anything that indicates Stewarts as being owned by them so not likely to be a typo.  . 

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2012, 01:09:50 PM »
I think my guess would be Teign Valley Glass: the date is OK; TVG is known to have used both black and aventurine; and there is an LVNH home in Newton Abbot just up the road from Bovey Tracey (home of TVG)

 

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